What (if anything) would bring success to the Wii U?

[Medic_wheat]

In a business sense, it isn't doing fine at all.  Losing money is not fine, especially not when it's nearing its second birthday.

that is correct.....lossign money is never a good thing.....

The only thing keeping Sony alive as a buisness IS their game devleopment department.....apart from that as a buisness Soney is tanking and gasping for air.

As a buisness Nindeno is still worth MORE then Sony and I want to say Microsoft altough that would require me to fact check...and I am to lazy...

The thing with Nintendo is they can wait it out with a system that is under performing at best, and still do well while they wait for more devlopment for it to strengthen sales....

Sega as a company couldn't which is why they ditched the failing Saturn and jumped onto the Dreamcast which ultimatly failed not because of the system but the company Sega was done for and couldn't keep it going.  Sega couldn't wait it out and let the devleopers work on their system and thus it failed.....the most fun about the Dreamcast was that Sega took ALMOST direct ports of their arcade games for quick cash and to sell the system.  and if it wasn't for the PS2 maybe Sega could have held on one more year and made a better foothold........but the Dreamcast had other issues like how anyone with a cd burner (which by that point it was already coming standared in most home computers) did and made burned copies of their games without any real copy protetction to save the company.....


My bigest hope for the Wii U is that Nintendo will feel pressured to merge their 3DS system and made another add on to play 3DS/DS games on the Wii U much likey they did for the SNES, and Gamecube...........apart from that I am honestly not worried (yet) about the Wii U or Nintendo's future...


sure maybe they will absorbed Capcom, or these other devleopers that need to be saved financially......


Can you really say Nintendo is in trouble or the Wii U if you can also say "they should buy Capcom and other game developers" to save them........if they got the money to buy off an established developer like Capcom they are not hurting for money as badly as some may fear

[vexcollects]

In a business sense, it isn't doing fine at all.  Losing money is not fine, especially not when it's nearing its second birthday.

that is correct.....lossign money is never a good thing.....

The only thing keeping Sony alive as a buisness IS their game devleopment department.....apart from that as a buisness Soney is tanking and gasping for air.

As a buisness Nindeno is still worth MORE then Sony and I want to say Microsoft altough that would require me to fact check...and I am to lazy...

The thing with Nintendo is they can wait it out with a system that is under performing at best, and still do well while they wait for more devlopment for it to strengthen sales....

Sega as a company couldn't which is why they ditched the failing Saturn and jumped onto the Dreamcast which ultimatly failed not because of the system but the company Sega was done for and couldn't keep it going.  Sega couldn't wait it out and let the devleopers work on their system and thus it failed.....the most fun about the Dreamcast was that Sega took ALMOST direct ports of their arcade games for quick cash and to sell the system.  and if it wasn't for the PS2 maybe Sega could have held on one more year and made a better foothold........but the Dreamcast had other issues like how anyone with a cd burner (which by that point it was already coming standared in most home computers) did and made burned copies of their games without any real copy protetction to save the company.....


My bigest hope for the Wii U is that Nintendo will feel pressured to merge their 3DS system and made another add on to play 3DS/DS games on the Wii U much likey they did for the SNES, and Gamecube...........apart from that I am honestly not worried (yet) about the Wii U or Nintendo's future...


sure maybe they will absorbed Capcom, or these other devleopers that need to be saved financially......


Can you really say Nintendo is in trouble or the Wii U if you can also say "they should buy Capcom and other game developers" to save them........if they got the money to buy off an established developer like Capcom they are not hurting for money as badly as some may fear

I don't mean save them as a company. Making a success of, or yes, saving the Wii U is what I mean. I don't think Nintendo itself needs saving.

[Medic_wheat]

Then in that regard there is really one two options...or a third if you combine them

1)  Regain 3rd party support (from game developers/publishers that matter) XSEED is a great start.

2)  Buy out some of these game companies that are dying out like Capcom

3)  Do both.......
Or a possible 4th make an attachment that would allow 3DS/DS owners to play their games on the Wii U with touch pad support.  That would be a system seller right there.  As their handheld market has a strong base that would easily translate to the Wii U consumer base.

Sadly the only way to regain 3rd party support would be to dump money at a game developer/publisher and say "make me a game that is exclusive to the WiiU" similar how they did it with Bayonetta.

[Necromancer]

Can you really say Nintendo is in trouble or the Wii U if you can also say "they should buy Capcom and other game developers" to save them........if they got the money to buy off an established developer like Capcom they are not hurting for money as badly as some may fear

The debate was whether or not the Wii U is doing fine, not Nintendo as a whole.  So far it's done nothing but lose money, and odds are it'll be lucky to even break even before it's replaced.

By the way, would it kill you to type in complete, intelligent sentences?  Reading your posts is painful.

[Medic_wheat]

Can you really say Nintendo is in trouble or the Wii U if you can also say "they should buy Capcom and other game developers" to save them........if they got the money to buy off an established developer like Capcom they are not hurting for money as badly as some may fear

The debate was whether or not the Wii U is doing fine, not Nintendo as a whole.  So far it's done nothing but lose money, and odds are it'll be lucky to even break even before it's replaced.

By the way, would it kill you to type in complete, intelligent sentences?  Reading your posts is painful.

Yes it would kill me.

[tggodfrey]

Medic, please type in complete sentences then.......

[Arkhan]

I think the Wii U is fine.  The library is fine.  The hardware is fine.

The problem is, the western gaming world is a bunch of f*ckoff douchecunts that are more concerned with retarded features than they are about games.


So they go HURRRRRRRRR ITS CARP I DONT WANT IT.

when really, its the best of the 3 new consoles to own and play.

[InfraMan]

I think the Wii U is fine.  The library is fine.  The hardware is fine.

The problem is, the western gaming world is a bunch of f*ckoff douchecunts that are more concerned with retarded features than they are about games.


So they go HURRRRRRRRR ITS CARP I DONT WANT IT.

when really, its the best of the 3 new consoles to own and play.

 

[Dicer]

I think the Wii U is fine.  The library is fine.  The hardware is fine.

The problem is, the western gaming world is a bunch of f*ckoff douchecunts that are more concerned with retarded features than they are about games.


So they go HURRRRRRRRR ITS CARP I DONT WANT IT.

when really, its the best of the 3 new consoles to own and play.

Stole the words right out of my mouth...

MS if they had gotten their way and hadn't gotten the backlash they did...Look at the shit they were trying to propose. It's not bad enough we are heading into a digital "you don't actually own your shit" mentality At least Sony is still Focused on games and not everything else first. Nintedo needs cross-buy ASAP it's a f*cking shame it hasn't been implemented yet, and break open that war chest and buy some goddamn property instead of letting it die.  Konami can f*ck right off for shooting Hudson soft in the head and putting them out of thier misery, that's plenty of awesome IP down the shitter, hell a Bomberman moblie/facebook game would be HUGE and wouldn't be a game I'd be pissed about on those platforms....f*cking Adventure Island endless runner, boom more money, but naw, let's kill it. Nintendo should Buy Capcom, should have bought Free Radical (another awesome set of devs down the shitter)

Oh and f*ck the likes of EA, they pulled the power play on SEGA and herded them out of the hardware biz, now they are trying the same tactic on Nintendo, guess what EA f*ck off it's not gonna happen.

[Arkhan]

Of all the next gen machines, I have the most Wii U games, and have played it the most.   It feels like this weird device.

I think it's called a game console.


Is that what the thing is where you put a game in and play it?

[Medic_wheat]

Of all the next gen machines, I have the most Wii U games, and have played it the most.   It feels like this weird device.

I think it's called a game console.


Is that what the thing is where you put a game in and play it?

Some times I feel like what you say on these forums we are one two diffrent wave lengths....


but damb it if I don't find your post to be the most humorus ones one here.....

and so far everything you have said about the WiiU I aggree with.

[johnnymad]

If Nintendo bought Capcom, I'd need to change my pants.

[vexcollects]

Sooo.....besides the Wii U dry humping, which I agree with for the most part, I think the best suggestions are:

- Buy another developer(s) with an established list of franchises
- Reconfigure the Wii U to play DS/3DS game cards
- Get a lot more quality first party titles out to market

I don't think buying temporary third party love is the answer, nor do I think luring them back is a viable option. The sales of existing third party titles has closed that door. Ask Ubisoft if they will make another Zombie U.

Here is another thought. Why not concentrate on your next console with an exit strategy for the current one? If the next console is a Gameboy/Nintendo home console in one (which can be done with HDMI out), which includes two nicely designed controllers and nifty base to drop the handheld into for play on the TV (like the NEOGEO thingy they released a year and a bit ago), and game cards instead of DVDs, they might have a chance to steal the show with something unique that actually serves two purposes. It's a rough idea I know and I'm sure other people have thought of this, but I think its an interesting one, and one that they are more than likely exploring since they combined their handheld and console division. 

[slinkyturd]

Speaking of Ubisoft: I read somewhere that Ubisoft has a completed title for Wii U that isn't going to get released until console sales pick up.

[TheClash603]

The best idea is to scrap the Wii U and start all over again...  and this is coming from a guy with 20 Wii U games that loves the system.

The XB1 and PS4 have approximately 5-7 more years of life ahead of them.  If Nintendo could get a system out next Christmas with a the power of a PS4, that means it has 4-6 years to compete directly with those systems, with an ability to have all of the same third party games.

Right now the Wii U is losing money.  The cost of the system will go down and the install base will go up and the system may turn a profit in the near future.  The problem is from a business perspective, "turning a profit" isn't good enough.  If the best case scenario is making a little money, the system is still a failure.

Launch the new Nintendo system Christmas 2015 and launch the new handheld along side of it.  The big launch game?  Pokémon, which can link between the handheld version and the first home system Pokémon that is cannon and not a spin-off.  You can get the home system for $350, the handheld for $200, or the combo pack WITH Pokémon for $450.  Handheld can be used as a controller, but it is not mandatory, so developers don't have to get creative when they don't actually have creativity.  However, this combo does allow for backwards compatibility with Wii U games.  Any "Indie" game that is downloaded, so not a full retail product that is on disc as well, must have mandatory cross-buy and it costs the same as the game on the XB1 and PS4.  This would give the most value to buying the game on the Nintendo system, essentially locking down the sales of downloadable games for Nintendo for anyone that has more than one system.

I for a long time was thinking a system that Nintendo's savior would be a system that is BOTH the handheld and the console, but I am afraid that would be underpowered and Nintendo would be in the same place they are now, so I changed my mind about that.

Finally, what about the people that own Wii Us?  Will they be pissed they bought a system that only had 3 years of life?  Do Ambassador Program 2.0 and anyone that has a Wii U registered automatically gets a bundle of Nintendo software downloaded on their system.  This will be if you buy within 12 months of release to provide an incentive for early adoption.  Give something like 5 NES, 5 SNES, 5 N64, 5 GC, and 5 Wii games for free, but let the users pick from 15 games on each system.  To make things even better, these games have exclusive re-skins never to be available anywhere else ever again...  so perhaps you have a character select in Super Mario Brothers where you can use Link, but this is a simple sprite swap so it isn't too much work for Nintendo.

I just solved Nintendo's problems.