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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2015, 12:51:42 PM »
I think maybe you were just a 9 year old that liked dinosaurs and would play any old crap. That's fine...when you are nine. It's grown up time now. :)

What 9 year old doesn't like dinosaurs?

I'm sure there are some. I'm sure there some 9 year olds that like dinosaurs too much to blow them up. It doesn't matter. My point is that you aren't 9 anymore. It's OK to admit this flash-in-the-pan shit sucked. I liked Night Rider when I was 9. I'm not going to pretend it isn't an extremely bad TV show.

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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2015, 12:55:31 PM »
I think maybe you were just a 9 year old that liked dinosaurs and would play any old crap. That's fine...when you are nine. It's grown up time now. :)

What 9 year old doesn't like dinosaurs?

I'm sure there are some. I'm sure there some 9 year olds that like dinosaurs too much to blow them up. It doesn't matter. My point is that you aren't 9 anymore. It's OK to admit this flash-in-the-pan shit sucked. I liked Night Rider when I was 9. I'm not going to pretend it isn't an extremely bad TV show.

Remember the Night Rider when you look up at the night sky, bitch.

Turok can be his guilty pleasure, just as Full House and Doraemon can be yours.

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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2015, 04:55:37 PM »
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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2015, 06:06:40 PM »
I was 12 years old at the time, I grew up with the FPS scenes from SNES Jurassic Park and I am not ashamed to say that I still like dinos a lot.

Since Doom, Duke 3D and Quake weren't accessible for minors were I live, the first time I played through them was in 2002. I liked them. And even after getting exposed to modern FPS stuff, I think Turok 1 stood the test of time better than some other home console FPS games (think of all the bad aged Goldeneye rip-offs) and even some PC FPS of its time. So to me, Turok 1 has the same old school appeal as Quake and Duke 3D: Run, kill, explore.

I could talk about Turok Dinosaur Hunter all day without feeling embarrassed, but I understand that this game isn't everybodies taste, which is of course all right. I guess Zeta is still mad at me that I didn't dig Grave of the Fireflies?
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« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2015, 09:51:30 PM »
I remember getting Turok back when I had N64. Played it once. So unimpressed. Turok the fog hunter. I gave it away shortly after that.
N64 was biggest, muddy, washed out disappointment of my life.

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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2015, 10:06:39 PM »
I remember getting Turok back when I had N64. Played it once. So unimpressed. Turok the fog hunter. I gave it away shortly after that.
N64 was biggest, muddy, washed out disappointment of my life.
Wow this is probably the N64 hate club 8), I had Turok 2 and liked it and was like "wow this looks nice and better than PS (I hated the PS and still do ! :twisted:) "!
Plus N64 was probably the nicest console of that generation, I mean just look at the FULL 3D of SM64 and Zelda OoT! Nothing the PS had really did that and the Saturn :( (I'm a SEGA fan so I don't hate Saturn but still saturn didn't have the power of the N64). Another thing that controller :lol: so great to use!
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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2015, 10:11:15 PM »
I remember getting Turok back when I had N64. Played it once. So unimpressed. Turok the fog hunter. I gave it away shortly after that.
N64 was biggest, muddy, washed out disappointment of my life.
Wow this is probably the N64 hate club 8), I had Turok 2 and liked it and was like "wow this looks nice and better than PS (I hated the PS and still do ! :twisted:) "!
Plus N64 was probably the nicest console of that generation, I mean just look at the FULL 3D of SM64 and Zelda OoT! Nothing the PS had really did that and the Saturn :( (I'm a SEGA fan so I don't hate Saturn but still saturn didn't have the power of the N64). Another thing that controller :lol: so great to use!
Yea but Mario 64 for DS and OOT for 3DS so much better. I agree I enjoyed them at the time but still was mostly a useless console.

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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2015, 12:49:11 AM »
Nintendo's first party games are tmreason enough  to enjoy  N64. Only a meanie would say otherwise.

CHANGE TITLE OF THREAD TO "N64 HATE CLUB" as someone already mentioned....
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2015, 03:05:44 AM »
I agree the library is nothing to be proud of, but i did enjoy the following:

Multiplayer:
Goldeneye 007
the early WCW games
Mario Party
Mario Kart 64

SinglePlayer:
Ocarina of Time (never played Majora's Mask but hear it's good)
Mario 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day (great Humor and very original, but that's about it)
Banjo Kazooie

What i didn't understand was the popularity of Super Smash Bros, it was fun for 15-30 minutes, but people still go nuts over it.

but anyway, back to the original topic. What's up with people paying so much for Not For Resale demos, and Cart Variants? I own the Turok Gray cartridge and never knew it was a variant, picked it up at a garage sale a while back along with some other games, i think i almost sold it for like $6 haha.

I see people pay double/triple if not more for NFS carts, i'll never understand that...

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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2015, 05:11:04 AM »
I agree the library is nothing to be proud of, but i did enjoy the following:

Multiplayer:
Goldeneye 007
the early WCW games
Mario Party
Mario Kart 64

SinglePlayer:
Ocarina of Time (never played Majora's Mask but hear it's good)
Mario 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day (great Humor and very original, but that's about it)
Banjo Kazooie

What i didn't understand was the popularity of Super Smash Bros, it was fun for 15-30 minutes, but people still go nuts over it.

but anyway, back to the original topic. What's up with people paying so much for Not For Resale demos, and Cart Variants? I own the Turok Gray cartridge and never knew it was a variant, picked it up at a garage sale a while back along with some other games, i think i almost sold it for like $6 haha.

I see people pay double/triple if not more for NFS carts, i'll never understand that...


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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2015, 06:52:41 AM »
I remember getting Turok back when I had N64. Played it once. So unimpressed. Turok the fog hunter. I gave it away shortly after that.
N64 was biggest, muddy, washed out disappointment of my life.
Wow this is probably the N64 hate club 8), I had Turok 2 and liked it and was like "wow this looks nice and better than PS (I hated the PS and still do ! :twisted:) "!
Plus N64 was probably the nicest console of that generation, I mean just look at the FULL 3D of SM64 and Zelda OoT! Nothing the PS had really did that and the Saturn :( (I'm a SEGA fan so I don't hate Saturn but still saturn didn't have the power of the N64). Another thing that controller :lol: so great to use!


I got an N64 at launch and rented or traded for Turok as soon as it came out. It was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played, as magazines had hyped it so much. At the time, it didn't feel like it had 3D environments, it felt like you were standing on a small swatch of floor and occasionally a swatch of wall would faded into view, as did objects once they got close. The developer wasn't ready to pull off the game on N64 and it shoulsn't have been released as-is. One of the future Turoks has nice 3D, I don't remember the name.

I like the N64, even though it has one of my least favorite libraries. The Saturn and PSX have lots of 3D visuals you won't find on N64 as well. Particulary there is much more variety of balances of 3D elements, artwork and types of games in general.

But having some of the better 3D in the worst generation with 3D as a standard feature isn't much to brag about. Especially when it happens to also be one the last generation with such a strong 2D library. Nothing on the N64 could compete with dozens (hundreds?) of great 2D games found on PSX/Saturn.

It was especially disappointing coming right after the SNES.

I'm always surprised when people in 8/16-bit forums discount 2D altogether and put so much value on 32-bit gen 3D. Somehow it's always while hyping the N64 library. :P
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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2015, 12:03:35 PM »
I was 12 years old at the time, I grew up with the FPS scenes from SNES Jurassic Park and I am not ashamed to say that I still like dinos a lot.

Since Doom, Duke 3D and Quake weren't accessible for minors were I live, the first time I played through them was in 2002. I liked them. And even after getting exposed to modern FPS stuff, I think Turok 1 stood the test of time better than some other home console FPS games (think of all the bad aged Goldeneye rip-offs) and even some PC FPS of its time. So to me, Turok 1 has the same old school appeal as Quake and Duke 3D: Run, kill, explore.

I could talk about Turok Dinosaur Hunter all day without feeling embarrassed, but I understand that this game isn't everybodies taste, which is of course all right. I guess Zeta is still mad at me that I didn't dig Grave of the Fireflies?

What was your favorite movie when you were 12? Your favorite album? What was your idea of great sex when you were 12? What was your idea of the perfect day back then?

I don't want the answers to any of those questions. (Nobody does.) My point was that...hopefully none of that stuff is still your favorite because even if you haven't matured one iota, one would hope to god that in roughy 20 years since then, more than half a lifetime ago, you would have seen and experienced so many more cool things that you would hopefully not even remember WTF "Turok Dinosaur Hunter" even was.

We all know the game was popular and everyone bought it (even I did, there wasn't shit to play on N64 so I had to try everything). Just looking at period magazine covers will tell us that. It isn't a good game. It isn't even an OK game. It's terrible. It also cost $80.

Just because you like something when you were 12 doesn't mean you have to defend it to everyone forever. You can actually allow yourself to use your adult brain to judge the quality of the game. You can allow yourself to not like it. Just because there were FPS that were even shittier than Turok doesn't make Turok good. That's not now shit works. There are a million pachinko games out there, many much better than others, but all of them suck.

And please, none of this straw man horseshit. Liking dinosaurs is fine. Everyone loves dinosaurs. There are thousands of scientists all over the world that have devoted their lives to the study of dinosaurs and nobody disparages them for it (unless they also like Turok, but that's highly unlikely). Dinosaurs are not the issue. Turok: Amway Salesman: Rage Wars would have been just as shitty. The issue is that YOU AREN'T 12 ANYMORE MOTHERf*ckER.

When I was 12 I liked the band Van Halen. Now I don't because I've evolved to not like shitty things and Van Halen is a very shitty thing.

Btw, as to the original question, I think this is good topic. Should the "corrected" version of a game be valued differently than the original? I think yes, but it depends on what's being corrected. Is the game more or less fun in its fixed version or its original? The game in general matters more than anything of course. If the grey Rage Wars is worth 100 times what a regular one is, then that's fine...as long as the grey one is $10 and the original is a dime.

As for the N64. Well, you know how the PC Engine was f*cking awesome and the PC-FX was not only bad but it was bad at something completely different? That's pretty much the transition from SNES to N64. Everything that was good about the SNES was thrown in the trash so we could have foggy polygonal bullshit. What's nice is that Nintendo has since realized that sometimes we like 2D and sometimes we like 3D. Now they feel free to go whichever direction works best for the game itself instead of trying to figure out how to shove something with Yoshi in it into a foggy hellscape and still make it fun.

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Re: Turok Rage Wars
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2015, 02:47:10 PM »
Van Halen is a guilty pleasure for hipsters.

Zeta's guilty pleasure is Jet Force Gemini. I admitted earlier that I had fun playing it, and still do. Sometimes.

Zeta: I did enjoy the SNES --> N64 compared to PCE --> PC-FX comparison :)
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2015, 03:19:50 PM »
Wait...you have 17,000 posts?

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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2015, 03:27:18 PM »
Wait...you have 17,000 posts?

For the last ? years I've been posting from phone/tablet, so I have no idea what my post count is (the app doesn't include it? Or, it does— but I haven't seen it?)

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