Saccing of Batman Return of the Joker for Nes caused the game to go up in price?

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Quoth09 pointed this to me:

I was not aware people like Game-Tech were doing this with the game (Game-Tech admits to saccing 30 or so of them himself). What I had noticed was that over the past couple of years the game has been going up in price though, and I am wondering if the two are directly related.

It used to be you could easily get the game for under $20. Now you are having to pay $30 or more if you want the game. Seriously, was there just no other game that could have been used to do this? Batman Return of the Joker is a sweet f*cking game. I could understand saccing like sports games or THQ games or something, but f*cking Batman?

[MotherGunner]

WTF, over?

[DragonmasterDan]

WTF, over?

People make Gimmick carts from it.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=Batman+Return+of+the+Joker+Nes&_sop=15

Yeah currently no BIN price under $36 for a loose cart. Last time I had a Nes I got this game for like $16 shipped via BIN.....


You know, another thing about this kind of irks me. Its not like Gimmick isn't on any system. There is a Famicom and Pal release. People could just buy the Famicom cart and an adapter. No need to f*cking kill Batman to play this game.

EDIT: I see now, Gimmick on Famicom fetches over $400, so people kill a perfectly good game like Batman to make cheaper repros to sell in the $60-100 range. Honestly, is there just no other game that can be used to do the Gimmick repro carts?

[DragonmasterDan]

EDIT: I see now, Gimmick on Famicom fetches over $400, so people kill a perfectly good game like Batman to make cheaper repros to sell in the $60-100 range. Honestly, is there just no other game that can be used to do the Gimmick repro carts?

There's no other game that can be used to make Gimmick repro carts. However, RetroUSB at one point was selling one that was made from entirely new parts and no donors. They no longer sell it however.

Added in edit: The PAL release runs glitched on NTSC systems and goes for even more than the Famicom one.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Yeah was reading about that. The whole FME-7 thing. That seriously sucks. So I guess I would have to ask this, is Gimmick a better game then Batman was?

[DragonmasterDan]

Yeah was reading about that. The whole FME-7 thing. That seriously sucks. So I guess I would have to ask this, is Gimmick a better game then Batman was?

Yes it is.

[majors]

...I would have to ask this, is Gimmick a better game then Batman was?

It's NES fanboys..."better" has nothing to do with it. It's all about rarez and how much you can spend on "conversational pieces".

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Couldn't people just start saccing Famicom carts like Gremlins 2 or something? The thing with Batman doesn't sit right with me I guess because I always really liked that game. Also, wasn't Gimmick in Japan using Sunsoft 5b. That one supported extra audio. FME-7 doesn't do that, so I am guessing Gimmick on Nes doesn't sound as good, no?

[DragonmasterDan]

Couldn't people just start saccing Famicom carts like Gremlins 2 or something? The thing with Batman doesn't sit right with me I guess because I always really liked that game. Also, wasn't Gimmick in Japan using Sunsoft 5b. That one supported extra audio. FME-7 doesn't do that, so I am guessing Gimmick on Nes doesn't sound as good, no?

Yeah, the NES repros are usually based on a cancelled NES NTSC version that was sent out to magazines but not released to the market. It's the complete game with re-worked audio for the NTSC NES.

[VenomMacbeth]

Actually, it's the *Sacking of the game that's made the prices go up.

They've been steadily climbing since Joe & Dave's "Games that push hardware limits" episode.

[Desh]

It is true that this likely drove the price up.  I wanted to make myself a Gimmick for so long but couldn't bring myself to sacrifice a good and harder to find game in order to do it.  Thankfully, there is now another way.  These products are all new so there is no need to sacrifice original games http://www.infiniteneslives.com/nessupplies.php  That is one reason I have always liked Retrousb as well, they use all new stuff. 

Based on trends I have been seeing with new game developers and also some of the smart software folks making "collection carts" (i.e. all 6 Mega Man games on one cart) these guys have also been using all new boards and cart shells.  I hope this push continues.  It is also easier to make a game this way whether it's a flash board or new board that is already set up to match eprom pinouts.  A little piece of me dies every time an Astynax is sacrificed to make a fake Little Samson.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Please stop the madness, stop killing Batman Return of the Joker.

#NesLivesMatter

[munchiaz]

it sucks this game doesn't work correctly on a everdrive. I'm sure that would help save some return of the joker carts

[Necromancer]

It is true that this likely drove the price up.  I wanted to make myself a Gimmick for so long but couldn't bring myself to sacrifice a good and harder to find game in order to do it.  Thankfully, there is now another way.  These products are all new so there is no need to sacrifice original games http://www.infiniteneslives.com/nessupplies.php.

If I'm reading that right, you can buy all new parts for about the same cost as destroying a $30 Batman?  Why're peeps not buying new?!?

P.S. - my link works.