Steve Jobs

[ceti alpha]

They are all hipster coffee house douchebags that use their macs to blog, pretend theyre artists in photoshop, and play WoW since its the only new game the mac can run that has any ounce of entertainment to it.

I take extreme offense to this statement.  To insinuate that WoW has any quality aspects really makes my blood boil!

lolmax!! 

My brother just got a PowerMac laptop. He loves it, though he has a little touch of the Mac l33t bug now. He mainly uses it for music recording and such.

[blueraven]

Ok, I'll weigh in again.

Anyone have an Ant Farm as a kid? When its busy, It's like an Ant farm in the Apple Store. They even have the big glass walls. Total chaos with people falling all over each other, waiting their turn to talk to someone. No lines. People pissed and angry because a 30 minute mall trip is taking 3-4 hours. My advice? Call ahead and make an appointment, so you can walk in and walk out. Avoid the headache. 

The emo turtleneck mac people do exist. Linux people make fun of them constantly, usually because of their utter lack of technical knowledge and they bought their Macbook Pro on the premise and belief that the $3500 machine also includes a PhD in Computer Science.

All of the genius sales folk in the applestore by me are ...to put it bluntly: asshats.
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"Fedora is part of redhat, how much more real did you want to get man"--->Reply--->"Oh im not familiar with Redhat"    

Sounds like that guy was teh Linux poseur. There are a few "geniuses" at my store that don't deserve the title.

However, there are also some amazingly gorgeous "Mac Genius" women at my branch. I try to talk to them, if possible and I smile like this --->

[Necromancer]

For gaming I take it that card probably sucks.  But Macs can't play games, so they don't need higher-spec cards.

You obviously know very little about workstations.  They're not cutting edge, but GT120 cards are actually fairly competent gaming cards; that doesn't make 'em appropriate for use in a workstation, though, as some professional software simply will not use accelerated drivers with anything other than a workstation board (i.e. - Quadro or FireGL).

Is there any reason why you couldn't get the cheapest, shittiest card and replace it with one of your choice?

Sure I could; I could also assemble the computer from the ground up, but that's not the point.  Shouldn't a computer that 'just works' (as Apple likes to tout in their adverts) not necessitate having its hardware tinkered with immediately after purchase?  At the very least, they should offer professional level graphics as an option in a supposedly professional machine.

It is called "Pro" because professionals do not play games.  They work.  Macs cannot run games, hence they can only work (and download porn).

So Apple professionals don't do DCC, eh?  I repeat: you know nothing of the needs of those that buy workstations.

[Joe Redifer]

Necromancer, I really think you need to work on your sarcasm detection.  Stop taking everything so seriously. 

I just checked the Apple store and the top graphics card is a ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB, not NVidia GT120.

[Arkhan]

I just checked the Apple store and the top graphics card is a ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB, not NVidia GT120.

ATI made a top graphics card?

When did that happen?

Lol, WoW is a fun game if you play alone, or with friends.

I dunno, for a computer that "just works" it sure didnt do much for me that my PC wasn't already doing.

My reasoning for not replacing my Macbook after I spilled pop on it:

FruityLoops + CoolEdit kicks the piss out of garage band
Photoshop and PSP9 are on PC also (Though I mainly use NeoPaint)
I don't make movies so all that software is irrelevant
Both computers can go on the interwebs and do IRC/AIM (My friend who only uses his macbook for internet surfing is a dumbass, I swear)
Mac + Games = ROFLCOPTER


so I sold the broken mac for 700$, bought a gateway, used it for a year, sold it, and got my current HP which for <500$ can run UO, WoW and PerfectWorld at the same time....

It also lets me plug my guitar and midi interface in and make music

and has a numpad!

[Joe Redifer]

I dunno, for a computer that "just works" it sure didnt do much for me that my PC wasn't already doing.

Surely you don't buy into Apple's elitist advertising, do you?  Those advertisements are probably the WORST thing they can do for the brand as people generally do not like being talked down to.  People have really started to resent Apple.  Sure, people who already were Apple fanboys will love them and they may convert some old people, but I don't see much potential beyond that using the current advertising campaign.  As said before, they're both PC''s and no PC "just works" or is 100% trouble free.

FruityLoops + CoolEdit kicks the piss out of garage band

An empty can and a spoon kicks the piss out of GarbageBand.

[nat]

Macs cannot run games, hence they can only work (and download porn).

And for that they are great. All the joy of porn surfing without the worry of trojans or worms.

[Arkhan]

I dunno, for a computer that "just works" it sure didnt do much for me that my PC wasn't already doing.

Surely you don't buy into Apple's elitist advertising, do you?  Those advertisements are probably the WORST thing they can do for the brand as people generally do not like being talked down to.  People have really started to resent Apple.  Sure, people who already were Apple fanboys will love them and they may convert some old people, but I don't see much potential beyond that using the current advertising campaign.  As said before, they're both PC''s and no PC "just works" or is 100% trouble free.

At the time I was laptop hunting and my school had deals between Apple and Gateway.  I got my mac book relatively cheap and took it home thinking I got a nice lightweight laptop with a crisp display, and a UNIX core to replace my dying NEC laptop.  It seemed like it would be great for C/C++ programming, and garageband might be ok.

Once the glitter of a brand new laptop wore off in a month and I deemed the software on it inferior to PC stuff....., and then my DVD drive and battery died, I was like "-_-" and said "I could've got this kind of functionality out of my NEC"

Before I replaced the macbook with a new gateway (that sucked so hard I sold it) I pulled my NEC VersaPro VA10J with CDRom, and worn out battery.

I upgraded the Fedora linux install on it and was like "Hey look its like my macbook only it JUST WORKS".

my iMac that I got cheap from ebay was also a piece of crap. 

and dont get me started on the unmighty mouse.  why go against the grain and have one button just to be different.

you dont see people walking with 1 f*ckin shoe to set themselves apart.


I really would like to see what the common user-folk to with their macs to justify the purchase price.


I can understand Pixar, or like some HUGE art place that uses them exclusively for painting/art....

but what does the common websurfer get for the tripled price?

[jperryss]

but what does the common websurfer get for the tripled price?

Pretentiousness.

[Joe Redifer]

Actually protection from viruses when surfing for porn like Nat pointed out.  When you have a giant room filled with a thousand hard drive bays with 1 TB drives in each bay all filled with downloaded porn, you'll agree.

and dont get me started on the unmighty mouse.  why go against the grain and have one button just to be different.

Actually it has two buttons.  Even more if you want to get creative with how you use it.  But it comes standard with left and right click, plus scroll wheel.  But nobody is forcing you or anyone else to use Apple's mouse.  I have been using a MicroSoft optical mouse for about 10 years now.  Love it and works perfectly.  No drivers to install, even back when I was using OS9.

[Arkhan]

you can download pron virus free on windows if youre smart, or just use Linux for free.


as for mice, the big problems with the mighty mouse come from the fact that it looks cool but fails .  I know you can put your finger a certain way and do all kinds of stuff, but blah.  It aint that mighty.

not to mention the cords about 2 inches long.  that is mighty!

[Joe Redifer]

They come with extension cables.  But seriously, just get a real mouse.  The only cool thing about the "Mighty Mouse" is the omni-directional scroll wheel.

[Arkhan]

well, I dont use them anymore.

I bought one thinking itd be nice.

I moved the mouse an inch and it unplugged from the USb port so I gave up.

I use a krait razor.

it glows orange.  It is far mightier

[Joe Redifer]

I don't like things that glow and distract me from the porn on the monitor.  My mouse has kind of a red glow due to the optics, though.  My PC case doesn't glow, but my power supply does.  So gay.

[Arkhan]

I don't like things that glow and distract me from the porn on the monitor.  My mouse has kind of a red glow due to the optics, though.  My PC case doesn't glow, but my power supply does.  So gay.

my computer  is bright yellow with rainbow fans.

5 of them.