Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[thesteve]

iu think i got my loose copy with a TG16 system complete and 9 other games on ebay for about $100

[BlueBMW]

Yeah I was going to say I dont exactly know what I paid for my US Bonk 3 huey with manual  It was in a lot I bought for $200 with a sealed OotG, Boxed Neutopia 2, JIC Air Zonk, JIC Neutopia, JIC Military Madness and something else.... so.....

[Jibbajaba]

Well that was definitely a nice deal.  I would like to build up my collection more by buying games in bulk, but I don't really see lots for sale outside of fleabay.  A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Chris

[BlueBMW]

A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Thus proving the rediculous nature of MC's price.

[Black Tiger]

A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Thus proving the rediculous nature of MC's price.

Not only are both solid games, OotG doesn't have a cheaper PCE version.

[Dyna138]

A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Thus proving the rediculous nature of MC's price.

Not only are both solid games, OotG doesn't have a cheaper PCE version.

I love OotG awesome, awesome game.

I also wondered the same thing about Beyond Shadowgate. As far as I know the US version is the only version that came out yet its typically worth much less than Dynastic Hero which you can get a JP version used for 20 bucks. I'd also say Beyond Shadowgate is just as rare or even more so than DH.

[Mathius]

A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Thus proving the rediculous nature of MC's price.

Not only are both solid games, OotG doesn't have a cheaper PCE version.

I love OotG awesome, awesome game.

I also wondered the same thing about Beyond Shadowgate. As far as I know the US version is the only version that came out yet its typically worth much less than Dynastic Hero which you can get a JP version used for 20 bucks. I'd also say Beyond Shadowgate is just as rare or even more so than DH.

Yeah, I hardly ever see Beyond Shodowgate anywhere ever. MC on the other hand...

[hoobs88]

A sealed OotG is pretty cool.  Funny how that's just as hard to find as a sealed MC, and yet it's worth so much less.

Thus proving the rediculous nature of MC's price.

Not only are both solid games, OotG doesn't have a cheaper PCE version.

I love OotG awesome, awesome game.

I also wondered the same thing about Beyond Shadowgate. As far as I know the US version is the only version that came out yet its typically worth much less than Dynastic Hero which you can get a JP version used for 20 bucks. I'd also say Beyond Shadowgate is just as rare or even more so than DH.

You can also get Dynastic Hero for $5 or $6 on the Wii Virtual Console.

[Jibbajaba]

I think that a lot of people thought that the Virtual Console was going o drive down the cost of old games, but it seems to have had no effect whatsoever.

Chris

[vestcoat]

OK, no offense to anyone, but the comparison commonly tossed around here about MC being as common as OotG is total nonsense and I've heard a half dozen people repeat it.

OofG came out a lot earlier, around the same time as Air Zonk.  They were both part of the "new software lineup" advertised through Turbo Zone (NOT TZD) and Totally Turbo in 1992.  They're both copyrighted 1992.  The Turbo was still a semi-viable system that year - there were no clearance sales, and Toy's R Us had not yet begun trimming down their selection.

By 1993, Turbo games were much harder to find, making it safe to say that games like MC had nowhere near the distribution of earlier releases even if just as many were pressed.

Let's look at the slate of Turbochips scheduled in the 1993 Club Duo Catalog:

Jan - Darkwing Duck (makes sense, the copyright on the actual Turbochip is 1992)
Feb - Hero Tonma, World Sports Comp
March - Bomberman '93
July - Magical Chase
August - Bonk 3 (makes sense because this is the only game released with the updated box design)
Oct - Battle Load Runner (oops, what do you know, never released)

The accuracy of this list is supported by the Bonk 3 box design, the copyrights on the games, and the fact that BLR wasn't released.  So, I'm going to argue that MC was the second-to-last Turbochip ever released and is therefore pretty frickin' rare.

[Tatsujin]

And I agree with Zeta.  I paid like $30 for my CIB PCE Bonk 3.  Why anyone would pay $600 for a loose version just because the label art looks different is beyond me.  The PCE version has better art, anyway.

Chris

and it's the even better game as well.

[Jibbajaba]

OK, no offense to anyone, but the comparison commonly tossed around here about MC being as common as OotG is total nonsense and I've heard a half dozen people repeat it.

OofG came out a lot earlier, around the same time as Air Zonk.  They were both part of the "new software lineup" advertised through Turbo Zone (NOT TZD) and Totally Turbo in 1992.  They're both copyrighted 1992.  The Turbo was still a semi-viable system that year - there were no clearance sales, and Toy's R Us had not yet begun trimming down their selection.

By 1993, Turbo games were much harder to find, making it safe to say that games like MC had nowhere near the distribution of earlier releases even if just as many were pressed.

Let's look at the slate of Turbochips scheduled in the 1993 Club Duo Catalog:

Jan - Darkwing Duck (makes sense, the copyright on the actual Turbochip is 1992)
Feb - Hero Tonma, World Sports Comp
March - Bomberman '93
July - Magical Chase
August - Bonk 3 (makes sense because this is the only game released with the updated box design)
Oct - Battle Load Runner (oops, what do you know, never released)

The accuracy of this list is supported by the Bonk 3 box design, the copyrights on the games, and the fact that BLR wasn't released.  So, I'm going to argue that MC was the second-to-last Turbochip ever released and is therefore pretty frickin' rare.

If you had some release numbers from a respected source then your argument would be a lot more viable.  Just because MC was released late in the TG's life cycle (and yes, may have been the second to last game) doesn't automatically make it more rare than OotG.  Just because OotG came out at the same time as Air Zonk, that doesn't mean that they had similar release numbers.  In fact, they may have released a smaller number of copies of OotG because they assumed that it would not sell as well as something like Air Zonk.  Companies do try and tailor their release numbers so that they don't end up with lots of unsold stock.

I'm not saying that you are wrong (or right), but the frequency with which OotG shows up on the market speaks to it's rarity.  It does show up for sale more often than MC (in my opinion), but that's probably got something to do with the fact that fewer people want the game.  Unless someone is going for a complete collection or actually intends to play the game (which has less mass appeal and name recognition than marquee titles like Bonk, Zonk, BL, etc), they are probably going to throw it up for sale if they come into possession of it.

OotG may have been more widely distributed than MC due to the fact that the TG was still present in stores at the time of it's release, but that doesn't mean that more copies of it were produced.  That's all I'm saying.  At the end of the day, we don't (that I know of) have production numbers to look at.

Chris

[GameFreak]

Yes there is a big difference between "auction" and "buy it now". I personally think they should NOT be subject to the same Insert Fees.

But what do you guys think of the ebay option of "make offer" ?
IMO,...as I buyer, i have had great success with this option!
....and you? 

[BlueBMW]

Offers can work but most of the ebay gouge jobs wont accept an offer that's much less than their BIN price.

[Keith Courage]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-grafx-16-console-booster-5Mint-games-Guaranteed-/230642440998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b35c5b26#ht_1021wt_881