Dumbest/Stupidest/Shittiest/All-around worst Nintendo console

[TheClash603]

Spyro and Crash bandicoot were alot better than Mario 64.

Does anyone actually believe this?

I like the DC pad for DC games. It's not the greatest control ever, but it gets the job done and I like it so much more than the N64 pad which might be my least favorite official pad from 8-bit onward. When it comes to fighting games for DC, I just use the Saturn pad converter and japanese/Model 2 pads.

Sega Master System controllers are terrible.

[geralds]

I cant understand all the complaints about the n64 i thought it was an awsome system.  I have to say wii is far worse do to its abundance of shitty titles.

[SignOfZeta]

Spyro and Crash bandicoot were alot better than Mario 64.

Does anyone actually believe this?

I seriously f*cking hope not. And even if they were better, which they absolutely aren't, the triumph of Mario 64 was that, at the time, there were very few 3D platformers. Almost none, really. The best one was, I think, Floating Runner, and Floating Runner wasn't very good. Then Mario 64 comes out and is totally great right out of the box. It's still one of the best.

[nat]

Yeah Mario 64 was one of the N64's shining games for sure. It's only problem was quirky camera issues that plagued all 3D games for years, although it's far from the worst of the lot. And of course sub-par 3D graphics compared to later releases, although that's not really a fair criticism I suppose.

Although, I personally think Super Mario Galaxy blows M64 out of the water as the pinnacle of 3D Mario gaming although M64 is a close second.

Best 2D Mario platformer: Super Mario World (SMB4)
Runner-up: Super Mario Bros. 2

Best 3D Mario platformer: Super Mario Galaxy
Runner-up: Mario 64

[DragonmasterDan]

Yeah Mario 64 was one of the N64's shining games for sure. It's only problem was quirky camera issues that plagued all 3D games for years, although it's far from the worst of the lot. And of course sub-par 3D graphics compared to later releases, although that's not really a fair criticism I suppose.

Although, I personally think Super Mario Galaxy blows M64 out of the water as the pinnacle of 3D Mario gaming although M64 is a close second.

Best 2D Mario platformer: Super Mario World (SMB4)
Runner-up: Super Mario Bros. 2

Best 3D Mario platformer: Super Mario Galaxy
Runner-up: Mario 64

Yeah, Mario Galaxy is obviously a better game, but it came 11 years later.

Also, I like New Super Mario Bros Wii more than Super Mario World ( on the same rule that makes Mario Galaxy better than Mario 64, better technology and better dev kits make it a lot easier to make a great game today than before). But everyone is entitled to their opinions.

[nat]

I don't think SMG is a better game than M64 because of technical merits alone, although those certainly help. Game and level design is the primary factor in my decision and by the same token, I feel SMB4 is better than New Super Mario Bros. for the same reasons.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Spyro and Crash bandicoot were alot better than Mario 64.

Does anyone actually believe this?

I like the DC pad for DC games. It's not the greatest control ever, but it gets the job done and I like it so much more than the N64 pad which might be my least favorite official pad from 8-bit onward. When it comes to fighting games for DC, I just use the Saturn pad converter and japanese/Model 2 pads.

Sega Master System controllers are terrible.

I deffinitly believe this.  I have never really enjoyed Mario 64.  While I haven't played the Galaxy games, so far, I just don't feel like Mario has transitioned well into 3D.  I love Crash waaaaaaaaaay more the Mario 64, no doubt.  I still haven't played thru the Spyro series yet, even though I own them all.  Ofcoarse, neither series has done so well since the original dev's moved on(Naughty Dog & Insomniac).

Supposedly, the next 3D mario for 3DS is supposed to capture the gameplay of the older games, while making the game 3D.

[Otaking]

I voted GameCube, I can't think of single stand out game released for it.

[DragonmasterDan]

I don't think SMG is a better game than M64 because of technical merits alone, although those certainly help. Game and level design is the primary factor in my decision and by the same token, I feel SMB4 is better than New Super Mario Bros. for the same reasons.

I don't think it's technical merits alone. I just think it's so much easier to develop on newer hardware that it makes it easier to make a better game. The fact that you can make larger levels, more detailed areas, better physics on modern consoles makes it that much easier to make a good game than on earlier systems where you had a lot more hurdles to jump over.

[TheClash603]

I voted GameCube, I can't think of single stand out game released for it.

Smash Brothers Melee
Zelda Wind Waker (best modern Zelda)
Super Mario Sunshine (best modern Mario)
F-Zero GX (DROOOL)
Wave Race
Donkey Konga (yeah, I said it)

Lots of good games.  Mostly all first party, but it is what it is.  Throw in a Gameboy player, and the Gamecube really was awesome.

[SuperDeadite]

SMB3>>>>>>SMW. 

[Joe Redifer]

SMW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMB3

Super Mario Sunshine (best modern Mario)

No, no, no.  It's the worst modern Mario by far.  I sold mine and I do not miss it.

Gamecube has Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2.  Part 1 is one of my favorite games of all times.

[Arkhan]

I got alot more enjoyment out of the spyro and crash games than I did Mario 64.  Mario 64 was frigging boring and slow.

Spyro, you got to fly around and breath fire, and it had some comedy to it.   I definitely played Spyro 1 more than Mario64.

Mario 64 had the pacing of OoT, without the enjoyment.

[nat]

Yeah, Mario Sunshine is probably the worst of all the Mario platformers, 2D and 3D combined.

[Black Tiger]

I tried very hard to get into Super Mario Sunshine, since I was dying for an updated Mario 64 with proper camera controls. I just couldn't do it. It really does trail far behind every other proper Mario platformer for me and wasn't enjoyable at all.

I love the Gamecube though. PSO Ep I & II alone made it a must buy and that single game provided me with as much entertainment as some console's combined libraries.