pier solar hd

[Arkhan]

So you mean I can sell my subpar Genesis game for 250$ to some shmoe?

....hm.   Now there is an idea.


Didn't they dump the ROM?   I could basically make my own version of the thing for however much a genesis flash cart costs?


or just take the cart out of the shell and replace it with Sonic.  Its not like the buyer will play it.

[Black Tiger]

They used unique techniques to make the rom not work on regular emulators and flash carts and the authors of emulators won't update them to support PS. The emulator that can run it has been hacked by pirates for PS and is distributed with the rom.

Watermelon has said that they were considering selling a version of the rom that will work on emulators (since they received so many requests), but that it would be only sometime after they sell enough carts. But that was before the kickstarter thing. So it likely won't ever happen now or they'll only sell basically the same thing as is floating around the internets, an emulator with a version of the rom that won't work on anything else.

[Arkhan]

So what you're telling me is, someone did what Pier Solar's staff arrogantly said was not possible (lolol never say never).

And, then they are like well, we will sell the ROM since some dorks are cutting into our profits!!

here's a question, how many f*ckin cart sales were required for a ROM to be sold?  Did they need to hit Reprint Run #6 in order for it to happen?

I bet one day, a flashcart that supports it will show up. 

The fact they went through those kind of processes in the first place helps demonstrate their real motives here.

[Gillian Seed]

Shh! Dont tell Arkhan the beatemup is an RPG...woops...

I already knew.  They talked about it that one time.

It seems like an interesting idea, but I bet it's done wrong.

If you want a beat em up RPG, look no further than the D&D games.   Anything else is just retarded.

I hope you've never heard of Guardian Heroes, if not I'll be very disappointed in this comment.

[Arkhan]

I know what that is, but still think the D&D games are the go-to for beat em off RPGs.

[Mathius]

I know what that is, but still think the D&D games are the go-to for beat em off RPGs.

Really wish the Saturn version was in English. Kinda removes the immersion somewhat.

[Gillian Seed]

On consoles at least I think I prefer Guardian Heroes. Dungeons & Dragons is very much a quarter muncher and that doesn't really translate well to consoles with unlimited credits. I'll play with friends and they'll just not give a damn about sacrificing themselves to inflict damage.

[Arkhan]

I know what that is, but still think the D&D games are the go-to for beat em off RPGs.

Really wish the Saturn version was in English. Kinda removes the immersion somewhat.

All they're saying is "ching chong chingy chong.  noodle noodle dishonor family"

I think.

[Tatsujin]

funny nuff they could turn in Emulator makers to not make PS work on them, but it's just right to use the very same Emulators for any other pirated rom in the world. What kind of shitty brainfark is that?

[Arkhan]

funny nuff they could turn in Emulator makers to not make PS work on them, but it's just right to use the very same Emulators for any other pirated rom in the world. What kind of shitty brainfark is that?

The emulators that they most likely tested the game on until they purposely broke it.

[nodtveidt]

So, let me get this straight...

- They say the game can't be dumped. It gets dumped anyway.
- Emu authors refuse to allow their emus to run the ROM. Someone else modifies an emu to run it, and distributes them together.
- So no matter what, there are still people who are gonna play it for free, despite all efforts to the contrary.
- And ultimately, the game still blows... yet they've got oodles of people willing to pay for it, and multiple versions of it as well... even though it's still the same game through all the newer versions.

Sounds to me like WaterMelon is more about marketing than gaming.

[TheOldMan]

So, let me get this straight...

- They say the game can't be dumped. It gets dumped anyway.
- Emu authors refuse to allow their emus to run the ROM. Someone else modifies an emu to run it, and distributes them together.
- So no matter what, there are still people who are gonna play it for free, despite all efforts to the contrary.
- And ultimately, the game still blows... yet they've got oodles of people willing to pay for it, and multiple versions of it as well... even though it's still the same game through all the newer versions.

Sounds to me like WaterMelon is more about marketing than gaming.

Sounds to me like they -thought- they were going to make a lot of $$ doing a retro game, and found out it doesn't work that way So they keep releasing new versions, hoping the collectors will pony up the cash to finally make it profitable.

Maybe they should have spent some of the time they used to do odd things (things the emulators don't support, a borked cd, etc) to actually improve the game; maybe have people outside their little circle beta test it? Get a little feed-back on the game? Listen to the people who wanted it, instead of saying "this is what you get. You want something fixed? Buy the next release" ?

I for one, am not impressed by the 'professional' release angle. All that takes is someone willing to throw a lot of money at the project. I would much rather see them do it on a budget (say $1000 for 50 copies). Producing it cheaply is part of being a homebrew dev.

[Arkhan]

Like I said before, it's clear they're not really doing this to be homebrew developers who are mostly doing it for fun.    They want to be big time professionals and make a ton of money, and instead of getting out there into the real industry, they're milking money out of collectors and crap.

[SmaMan]

Me? I'm not the crazy collector type. I'm not one to ever trade in any game I own unless I have duplicates, but I'm not a diehard "Gotta Catch 'em All!" type person either.

I just decided to give this game a shot since I've enjoyed other aftermarket homebrews like "Battle Kid" on the NES and such. (Great game by the way, if you like your games good and hard.)

[Arkhan]

Battle Kid is a better game than Pier Solar.   Yet, there aren't retarded amounts of reproductions and crap tied to it.   It just was what it was, and people went on with life.


If Insanity goes out of stock and someone tries to buy it still, we can either repress the discs, OR, just release the bin/cue/stuff for the world to enjoy (read: laugh at)