Author Topic: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita  (Read 11260 times)

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #135 on: October 10, 2017, 10:24:55 AM »
Wow, makes me want to get it and patch it - I wonder if there will be a ninja'd second gold master with the fix applied so this doesn't rest on the reliability of the services to provide a patch down the road.

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #136 on: October 10, 2017, 11:13:04 AM »
Wow, makes me want to get it and patch it - I wonder if there will be a ninja'd second gold master with the fix applied so this doesn't rest on the reliability of the services to provide a patch down the road.

That would be really nice. With it clearly noted on the disc art too.

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2017, 11:19:11 AM »
WOW, I had hoped this could at least happen for the PC version but the voice acting led me and someone else to think it wouldn't cause you'd have to get all the actors to revoice lines while just changing text can be done at any time...

Guess those XXXSEED protest warriors, their negative script reports and their email campaign to Falcom, got NISA to give this a second look... Well played, aholes...

It's an embarrassment, sure, but the customer will hopefully get a better product in the end, and thankfully we STILL are spared Tom-chan @XXXSEEDGames sticking his dumb jokes/references in your Ys game...so WIN WIN!!!!

That despicable company had an unfair advantage for 4 Ys scripts in hijacking the fan translations I produced with Jeff "DeuceBag" Nussbaum because he was a good editor and they gained 24,000 pre-translated strings plus 100's of images on their lap, letting them skip to more editing, saving time in the process, polishing it even more... Least NISA didn't cheat/exploit anybody unlike those aholes!!!

I think XXXSEED's Jessica Chavez is a good editor too, unlike Tom-chan seems to have a good sense of humor, so if I was NISA I'd hire her as she's a freelancer but loyalty to XXXSEED might lead her to decline if they tried...

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #138 on: October 16, 2017, 07:09:55 PM »
Beat Ys 8 a little over a week ago. Fantastic game! There are a few nitpicks I have with it but they are not huge nitpicks. I'd recommend it to everyone so that future Ys games may also be made. This is probably the best Ys game since Ys 4 on the Turbo, and I only hold the first 4 Ys games as high as I do because of nostalgia. This is so much more than those games. 33 hours for me to get through, but look at 40 or 50 if you wanna do everything and get the "true" ending where Adol and Dogi make out. There is no reason not to buy this game.

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2017, 02:14:06 AM »
So Adol always skipped town and left the girls hanging because they didn't have a penis?  :lol:

What'd you think of the translation?  I've not played it yet, but I've seen some of the stinkers online; they don't look that horrible to me (I've played worse), but I think Ys deserves better and I'm glad they're going to fix it.
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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2017, 03:39:37 AM »
Ys 8 now Game Sack approved, right on!

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #141 on: October 17, 2017, 06:11:24 PM »
Fantastic game, haven't finished it yet though.  The translation just doesn't seem bad enough to warrant the outcry.  My wife decided to play this as her next game, & is super addicted!  Infact, I've been playing it for a month, & she's only been playing it for a couple weeks, & she passed my progress on it a couple nights ago!

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #142 on: October 17, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »
Beat the game last week, I can see the translation being stiff, etc but the outcry is WAYYYYY overplayed.  I def will playthru a NG+.
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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #143 on: October 17, 2017, 07:04:44 PM »
The translation just doesn't seem bad enough to warrant the outcry.

It is flat, literal from what I understand but you know why this happened, sour grapes from XXXSEEDite fanboys that NISA swooped down like a hawk and snatched the Ys series far and away from XXXSEED...

If there wasn't absolute perfection, they were gonna nitpick and exploit anything, unfortunately NISA gave them plenty to work with both with the script problems and last minute delay on the PC build...

Ah well, fine by me, not since Konami's Ys 6 PS2 port have I purchased a legit localized Ys title, so I'm not gonna let em spoil my mood, if XXXSEED and Tom-chan had got their hands on it, I wouldn't be touching it!

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2017, 02:37:29 PM »
Why don't you just import them then? At least you could play them.

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2017, 12:18:07 PM »
Well, I only skipped Ys Origin, Celceta and 7 (I do own Falcom's first Ys Origin PC release). So play them in Japanese you mean ?

I thought I'd pirate Celceta, play with a PSP emulator since it was translated by Daniel "Varion" Prescott and not any of the criminal cheats, but I stopped caring years ago, never bothered...

Daniel actually donated $25 to me in the Felghana fan era, but he hanged with that Tom-chan/Kirsten "omgfailure" Miller "I-hate-NightWolve!" ahole clique on Ys forums, so I recall he went on to personally attack me...wasn't terribly exciting to wanna play through him either...

Hey, on that note, the number of XXXSEED Games associates I've been attacked by is up to 5 then, HAHAHAHAHA!!! Psycho Kirsten Miller, Tom-chan "Keep the KKK, man!" Lipschultz, Daniel Prescott, Lying Jeff "I'm a bi cock-flasher!" Nussbaum (the biggest two-faced coward, first behind my back), and their Steam coder, Sara Leen... Brittany used my "XXXSEED" porn joke on her Twitter, but that's about it, heh. I detected perhaps minor annoyance.

One more tangent: I did start the Ys Origin translation project after importing it as you might know before I retired/quit in April 2007, only after the cock-flashing fake translator [Jeff DeuceBag] begged me, just as I was about to delete my project files and website...

He cried not to take away the only thing he was proud of in his life, "Don't take fan translation work away from me..." Here I was, 5 years later, drained my savings to work on Ys projects, the Felghana patch was leaked, the download stats showed 99% freeloading, it was time to quit for me! I needed to get real paying work after I got some landlord duties out of the way for rental property but he didn't care!!!

So the degenerate bastard was crying, tells me about his suicide attempt, his drug dependence, his cane disability due to hip nerve damage (he's a crippled miserable ahole), etc. to manipulate sympathy... Already knew about his bankruptcy too. Unfortunately, I fell for it not knowing what a real monster this guy was all along, I shouldn't have, but let that be a lesson to anyone else! He's a self admitted sociopath, so take any of his bullshit with a grain of salt.

I didn't want to get sucked into another Ys project, I wanted to retire after Ys II actually, but Ys VI and Felghana sucked me back in... After the leak, I wanted to quit for sure, but after his begging with Ys Origin, I tried to think another way which was I wasn't gonna do it for free and I wanted ONLY paying Falcom customers who owned an Ys Origin DVD to get to use it, no pirate users, most of the 99% freeloaders should get nothing!

Jeff offered to pay me to do the project, but I foolishly didn't think that was fair to him... I should've taken that deal in retrospect but seeing what a liar the guy is and him running off with 100% of every penny he got from XXXSEED, that "deal" was likely worth dirt just to hold me over...

So we started work under the payware idea where I also ruled out paying him a flat fee. He rejected that because if it sold well, that'd leave me with a windfall profit and not fair cause we were "partners..." He insisted on a 40/60% royalty split... I thought that was too much in his favor based on work hours, but he thought it was *perfect* and got angry that I didn't accept it...

After fighting, almost parting ways, I got him to accept 25/75%, and under those terms I produced the most advanced version of my Translation Station software yet, giving him full editing control at the push of a button! I also implemented runtime script dumping, he plays Ys Origin and it logs every onscreen string to a HTML file, giving him most of the script in the exact order for maximum context, including character names doing the talking which was never available from the raw dumps!

He got enormous advantages no other fan translator ever received, and when he got to 100% about 2 years later with me still retired assuming he'd wait for me, he secretly exported the translated results to Tom-chan's Italian coder, and then on to XXXSEED Games in an epic double cross I'm sure they're all proud of to this day! I learned the real royalty split Jeff was all about was 100% for himself and 0% for everybody else!!

Note that a few months after agreeing with a 25/75% royalty split, I thought to smooth things over by giving him that $550, a cut from the $1300 I made from the Felghana early access program. I masked it as part wedding gift. I made one of the classic mistakes in life, you can't buy friends and I never truly knew what he was. He hated himself for having to work with a republican, that's all he saw me as... He hated having to lower himself to work with "a guy like me" given his Amazing Atheist Anus superiority complex, he's a bigoted fanatic, just hid enough of it with me to get by and when he no longer needed me since Tom-chan presented another option, he took it, played all sides when he needed to, then after XXXSEED pretended he didn't know me anymore for 3 years...

I wonder how things would've worked out if I had told him to go f*ck himself with Ys Origin, had just deleted my site as planned, and destoyed my project folders, research, software, etc. having totally rid myself of the Jeffs, the Tom-chans and the 99% freeloader brigade... They still would've cheated me on Ys I, II and Felghana, but I gave him a 4th project to cheat me on under shaky circumstances...

XXXSEED is a piece of shit company, no doubt about that in my mind and it can all be traced back to allowing a pedo-pandering degenerate like Tom-chan Lipschultz into influencing the company into horrible business decisions... They think they're better than me, always have, I was the too-embarrassing-to-be-credited guy, and that's a key factor why I'll continue to expose and log every last embarrassing comment or act they commit!

Jeff published a death wish on Kotaku recently, it happened on the KKK witches protest warrior article about Tom-chan. He's a tough guy now, went from begging to hoping I'll die from some kind of brain disease, he was quite specific. It's great stuff that I rattled his criminal cage, got under his skin after so many years of him hiding, trying to act "professional" but he couldn't keep that mask on.

His meltdown also tells me XXXSEED would never work with him again, not just cause of the 2 projects he botched with the company as he's a fake machine translator who needs WWWJDIC for every string, always was, he just papered over his guess and mistranslations with good editing... Jim Breen's WWWJDIC didn't even get a Special Thanks credit either, cause he only cares to credit Me, Myself and I...

Never has someone gained so much from fan translation work and deserved NONE of the benefits. If you have to step on other people to get ahead, you deserve NOTHING!! It's all my fault for putting out a translator recruitment call for Ys I and the bastard crawling out of the Neo Geo forums to find me, but yeah, shit happens...

/end rant

I'd like to beat Ys 8 this year as soon as the Steam version goes live. It brought back a little excitement for me given a different company won the licensing rights and XXXSEED Games was slapped in the f*cking face by Falcom by giving the project to a competitor! Finally, I thought, a little justice to a despicable company that doesn't deserve loyalty and operated under principles of backstabbing itself!!!

Anyway, I am cursed with remembering all this history as you can see, so you can imagine how appreciative I am that NIS America took away the Ys series from such a despicable company like no other! They never deserved it, they chose to create this kind of ugly, divisive, criminal history and it's hard to justify if it was all worth it...

I think what disturbs me most is both Tom-chan and Jeff sleep well, not an ounce of regret; it's coming to understand that they're proud of what they did and feel I "deserved it..." The whole thing is incredible to me...it left me speechless for years but that too was yet another mistake on my part which I've been making up for...

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #146 on: October 29, 2017, 02:16:43 PM »
Yeah, I'm waiting for the updated PC versions.  as I don't have a system to play the other versions.  IDK about finishing it this year.  looks like the PC version is at best Mid December release.  I am slightly mad to have to wait but, if I get both updated polished script and a glitch-free experience it isn't all bad.
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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #147 on: November 10, 2017, 09:50:03 AM »
The translation update patch and PC version have been further delayed.  Now they say they won't be out until sometime early next year.
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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #148 on: November 10, 2017, 10:30:50 AM »
Man, to f*ck up that bad....

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Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita
« Reply #149 on: November 10, 2017, 11:26:15 AM »
Man, to f*ck up that bad....

Ehhh I kinda think it was blown a little out of proportion.  Most people seem to think the script wasn't that bad. And I expected a least a few delays once they started fixing bugs.  fix 1 create 2 and so on . . .
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