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What does EGM think of the PC-FX?
« on: October 26, 2006, 04:02:31 PM »
EGM & 1up.com recently ran a feature on video game systems that never appeared in North America. Here's their summary of the PC-FX-


Say wha? The follow-up to NEC's excellent TurboGrafx-16 was neither excellent nor turbo. Overpriced, undersized, and underpowered—it launched in Japan at the same time as the vastly superior PlayStation—PC-FX quickly degenerated into a breeding ground for crappy anime and porn games.

MIA: PC-FX never came to America, and all evidence points to the fact that it sucked hard as the primary reason it never made its way over here.

Major games: Dragon Knight 4, Der Langrisser

Did we miss out? Not at all. The PC-FX had very little to offer anyone who wasn't turned on by hot anime action.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 04:19:38 PM »
Can we turn this thread into what we think of EGM? In their own words..."sucked hard" :)

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 04:29:32 PM »
EGM does suck (hard even) but its pretty damn difficult to come up with a counter argument to their crude statement. The PC-FX was a huge huge huge disapointment.

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 06:02:56 PM »
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Say wha? The follow-up to NEC's excellent TurboGrafx-16 was neither excellent nor turbo. Overpriced, undersized, and underpowered—it launched in Japan at the same time as the vastly superior PlayStation—PC-FX quickly degenerated into a breeding ground for crappy anime and porn games.

Umm, is that sarcasm or something?

Yeah EGM blowz.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 10:09:40 PM »
I guess it is. I too think that there's nothing good you can say about this console.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2006, 12:09:55 AM »
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I guess it is. I too think that there's nothing good you can say about this console.


Well, it is cool looking, and the controler is nice...sorta.

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2006, 05:39:11 AM »
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I guess it is. I too think that there's nothing good you can say about this console.


I hate to admit it, but I've always wanted a PC-FX but only for the sole reason of having it.  None of the games interest me.  It's one of the coolest looking consoles I think, though.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2006, 07:54:31 AM »
The controller and the system looks cool, but yeah as a game system its not worth owning unless you're a collector.  I sold mine since there are only about 5 good games on the system.

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2006, 01:02:02 PM »
I don't disagree with EGM's assessment of the FX. It's a disappointing console to me, both in its capabilities and the software library, whether taken on its own or in comparison to its predecessor. What bothers me about the EGM article are details like the "undersized" comment that Keranu mentioned. That sort of thing makes me wonder if the author has ever even used an FX. I don't care if people dislike something if they can back up their statements, but in most of the gaming forums I frequent there's a tendency for people to "pile on" games, systems, etc. that are considered bad, with many comments coming from people who seem to have never even played the game/system in question.

This reminds me of the "Jaguar controller is worst ever" article from awhile back. Again, that makes me wonder if the author ever used a Jaguar pad, or if he just read about "how crappy the Jag was" in a bunch of gaming forums and decided to put it at the top of his list. I mean c'mon, there's plenty of controllers worse than the Jag pad.

Another point, can anyone provide list prices for the launch of the PSX, Saturn, and FX? I'm curious about his overpriced comment. I remember the Saturn usually being slightly more expensive than the PSX in Japan, and the FX seemed to run a little more than a JP Saturn at import shops at the time, but I don't recall the FX pricing being that out of line with the other 32-bit systems. When I bought mine from NCS, it cost me about $250 IIRC, while JP Saturns were around $200. I don't remember what the pricing was in yen though; lower demand for FXs compared to Saturns could have explained that price difference via importers.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2006, 01:53:39 PM »
The Jag pad IS the worst controller of all time, I couldn't possibly think of a more horribly designed pad.  It fit perfectly with the horribly designed system though, what a combo.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2006, 02:24:13 PM »
Before I actually used a Jaguar controller, I thought it looked really silly and poor in the pictures I saw, but when I actually did get to use it, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. It fits in your hand just find and controls decent enough. Hell I'll take the Jaguar pad over something like the X-Box controller.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2006, 04:19:17 PM »
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This reminds me of the "Jaguar controller is worst ever" article from awhile back. Again, that makes me wonder if the author ever used a Jaguar pad, or if he just read about "how crappy the Jag was" in a bunch of gaming forums and decided to put it at the top of his list. I mean c'mon, there's plenty of controllers worse than the Jag pad.


How many is plenty? The 3D0 pad was pretty horrible. Not horribly designed necessarily, but just horribly made. Diagonals were a bitch, etc. I don't think there are "plenty" of controlers worse than Jag. Maybe two or three.  The Jag overall was such a terrible system that it ranks up there with the PC-FX. Its probably even worse.

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Another point, can anyone provide list prices for the launch of the PSX, Saturn, and FX? I'm curious about his overpriced comment. I remember the Saturn usually being slightly more expensive than the PSX in Japan, and the FX seemed to run a little more than a JP Saturn at import shops at the time, but I don't recall the FX pricing being that out of line with the other 32-bit systems. When I bought mine from NCS, it cost me about $250 IIRC, while JP Saturns were around $200. I don't remember what the pricing was in yen though; lower demand for FXs compared to Saturns could have explained that price difference via importers.


I'm pretty sure all three systems were about the same when they came out, or soon after that. After not too long they were all going for 38,000yen. There might have been a time when the FX was 10000 yen more than the others, I don't remember. $200 Saturns and stuff came years later as the machines were much more expensive than that at first.

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2006, 04:29:33 PM »
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Before I actually used a Jaguar controller, I thought it looked really silly and poor in the pictures I saw, but when I actually did get to use it, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. It fits in your hand just find and controls decent enough. Hell I'll take the Jaguar pad over something like the X-Box controller.


I don't know about that. I %100 boycott everything MS, especially Xbox, but I have to give credit where it is do. The XBox pads (barring the original US model) are extremely well made. They suck for OG games like Street Fighter, or anything where you have to wail on buttons repeatedly, but for the sorts of games people play nowadays the stuff is great.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2006, 04:44:39 AM »
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Before I actually used a Jaguar controller, I thought it looked really silly and poor in the pictures I saw, but when I actually did get to use it, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. It fits in your hand just find and controls decent enough. Hell I'll take the Jaguar pad over something like the X-Box controller.

Yeah I remember the Jaguar controller being silly-looking and unwieldy, but when you actually use it, it's a whole different ballgame, as it was pretty decent for most games. It sucked for Kasumi Ninja though, which was a shame considering it was one of the best (of the very few it got) fighting games on the Jag...which ain't sayin much considering it was pretty sucky.

Boycotting MS for no reason is sillier than the original Xbox controller.

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2006, 06:45:57 AM »
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Boycotting MS for no reason is sillier than the original Xbox controller.


Why do you say, "no reason"?