Dumbest/Stupidest/Shittiest/All-around worst Nintendo console

[rag-time4]

Yeah Mario 64 was one of the N64's shining games for sure. It's only problem was quirky camera issues that plagued all 3D games for years, although it's far from the worst of the lot. And of course sub-par 3D graphics compared to later releases, although that's not really a fair criticism I suppose.

Although, I personally think Super Mario Galaxy blows M64 out of the water as the pinnacle of 3D Mario gaming although M64 is a close second.

Best 2D Mario platformer: Super Mario World (SMB4)
Runner-up: Super Mario Bros. 2

Best 3D Mario platformer: Super Mario Galaxy
Runner-up: Mario 64

I'm also a huge fan of Super Mario 2 (usa), but I've also gotta give JJ and Jeff some love as a truly great 2d platformer. Probably the only game in my collection that's both incredibly fun to play and at the same time capable of drawing a legitimate "what the hell are you playing???" from a roommate!

I had a blast with Super Mario Galaxy as well. Haven't cleared Mario 64 yet though.

[Mathius]

Yeah, Mario Sunshine is probably the worst of all the Mario platformers, 2D and 3D combined.

I have to agree with this.

[Arkhan]

PSO Ep I & II alone made it a must buy and that single game provided me with as much entertainment as some console's combined libraries.

Dreamcast did it better!

[TheClash603]

Yeah, Mario Sunshine is probably the worst of all the Mario platformers, 2D and 3D combined.

I have to agree with this.

It is the only Mario game with a gimmick that is original and awesome, in FLUDD.  That sucker makes the game wholly unique, and it provides great challenge and a ton of fun.  No other Mario has the sense of vertical climb that Sunshine does, and I loved it.  Nothing was more satisfying that getting way up to the top of a large structure using your water rocket... and conversely nothing was as upsetting than falling when you were near the top.

The only complaint I can see Mario fans having is that the setting was all beach, which did get a little tiresome.  However, the beach was absolutely breathtaking for the time, and it was a themed game (like Galaxy), so the beach setting made sense.

I guess some people didn't quite get FLUDD, or it was enough to alienate them.

[Mathius]

I didn't really mind FLUDD. It was the atmosphere that killed for me.

[BlueBMW]

I actually enjoyed Mario Sunshine... felt somewhat like Mario 64 to me and so for that reason I liked it

[nat]

Anyone who likes Mario 64 a lot I suggest give Super Mario Galaxy a spin. It does everything Mario 64 does, only better.

I haven't played SMG2 yet, though, so I can't comment on that one.

[Mathius]

Galaxy 2 is more of what Galaxy 1 was, but lost a tiny bit of magic along the way.

Galaxy 1 is the best of the 3D Marios though!

[Black Tiger]

Anyone who likes Mario 64 a lot I suggest give Super Mario Galaxy a spin. It does everything Mario 64 does, only better.

I haven't played SMG2 yet, though, so I can't comment on that one.

SMG seemed pretty cool, but it's like playing with a broken controller.

[Mathius]

Anyone who likes Mario 64 a lot I suggest give Super Mario Galaxy a spin. It does everything Mario 64 does, only better.

I haven't played SMG2 yet, though, so I can't comment on that one.

SMG seemed pretty cool, but it's like playing with a broken controller.

I am as old school as they get, but trust me when I say that I got used to the control scheme very quickly.

[PunkicCyborg]

I never progressed past the SNES. I borrowed a 64 at one point in time and I really enjoyed Mario and the first Zelda and Tetris. Gamecube has absolutely no appeal to me and it's pretty pointless altogether especially since the wii is backwards compatible. I never bought into the 3d thing at the time and Nintendo has lost me altogether with the types of games they release. Wii is alright but I don't think I'd ever own one

[_joshuaTurbo]

I can't get into the N64, never could.  Super Mario64 was NOT as fun as NiGHTS on Saturn. 

If the Virtual Boy was on this list, I'd still say N64 was the worst system.

What was the Virtual Boy continuing the legacy of?  Nothing, it was a new concept, and I loved Wario Land VB! 

The N64 was carrying on the tradition of the SNES, and COMPLETELY dropped the ball!  Where were all the Fighting/ RPG's/ Shooters?  We got some FPS's and 3D platformers... actually from what I remember the only thing the N64 did wel WAS First Person Shooters and 3D platformers... well, and some racing games.  Diddy Kong and F-Zero X were great.

[Necromancer]

It's not even close - N64 all the way.  Even if the V.B. were a choice, it was a separate project and not a replacement for the Game Boy, so its failures are more easily forgiven.

As for people picking the GameCube or Wii over the N64: you guys are nuts.  The Wii has last-gen hardware, gimmicky shit controllers, a shovelware heavy library, and pushed overpriced download-only gaming a step further, yet it still has more than enough positives to place it head and shoulders above the poorly executed N64.

[Bernie]

hmm..  This is a hard one for me.  I have always loved what Nintendo put out.  If I had to choose one console they completely failed on, it would be the Virtual Boy, but thats not one of my options in this thread.

I love the N64, as a matter of fact, I had pre-ordered mine and waited in line on launch day to get it along with Super Mario 64, which I also loved a lot!!  I was a little disappointed they decided to stay with the cart format, but hey..I still enjoyed the system, and still do from time to time. 

The Gamecube....hmm...  another awesome console, IMO.  Super Mario Sunshine was certainly a different way to do a Mario game, but I thought it was genius!  I put a lot of hours cursing, throwing tantrums, ect..into this game.  The Zelda series on this console was also one of the reasons I actually bought the system.  Windwaker was IMO one of the best games in the series.  I loved how they did something, different. 

Now, my Wii...  Although I do enjoy my Wii, it is the least favorite of the Nintendo consoles for me.  I realize the Wii wasnt made for power, and I have no beef with that.  My thing is the amount of crap games compared to the amount of decent games out for this system.  The small handful of games I have bought for this I have enjoyed, such as the Zelda series and Super Mario Galaxy.  However, if it wasnt for the ability to play Gamecube games, and the ability to download for the Virtual Console, I wouldnt really use it.  I also use it for NetFlix, but thats another story.  It does have its uses.  I can download my Final Fantasy II and III for SNES and not have to worry about battery back-up on the cart.  Up till I started buying heavily in the TG-16 library, I was grabbing those as well.  My Wii is actually fired up more than my Xbox 360!!  For the price, and what it has to offer, I think its done its job. 

[termis]

No question - N64.  Nat's assessment in the original post is spot on.