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Title: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: tpivette on June 09, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
So tomorrow at E3 (6pm PST), Sony will finally show off the PS4 console. Hopefully they will also disclose some additional information on it: like will it need 24hr internet connection, play used games without a fee, etc. So far they've been pretty vague with details concerning those topics. Yes, they've said no constant internet connection will be required, and it will play used games... but so did Microsoft about their Xbox One. Later it was revealed that the new M$ console will in fact play used games, but with a fee. And it doesn't HAVE to be connected to the net 24/7, but it does need to be hooked up to it at least once a day for "updates" and the like. I'm praying Sony doesn't follow a similar path. If so, at least it's comforting, somewhat, knowing the Wii U has none of those attributes.
Thoughts? Opinions? Wish lists for the system?
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Post by: Bernie on June 09, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
I've lost all faith in new systems. Seems Nintendo is the only one left focused on GAMERS first. I will just stick with my retro stuff, and my Wii U until they prove me wrong.
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Post by: allyourblood on June 09, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
I've lost all faith in new systems. Seems Nintendo is the only one left focused on GAMERS first. I will just stick with my retro stuff, and my Wii U until they prove me wrong.
Agreed. While I use both the 360 and the PS3 for media center features, I consider them a bonus, and I certainly don't want the consoles designed around this use.
Now the XBOne and the PS4 seem to only care about pushing streaming garbage at me: Hulu Plus, Netflix, ESPN, HBO, Amazon Instant, blah, blah, blah. Download this, update that. Microtransactions galore. I'm done with the whole thing. I want to play games and watch a movie now and then, not be hammered with ads and banners and be DLC'd to death every time I turn the darn thing on!
I'm gonna wait and reserve final judgment for after the two consoles have come to market and marinated a bit. But I imagine my opinion likely won't change very much. I haven't been very interested in Nintendo's Wii U either, but the more I hear about the other two heavies, the more appealing Nintendo's console appears. In the meantime, I'm content to catch up with this generation's games and delve deeper into my classic library. If no next gen console ends up winning me over, so be it. I've got my classics to keep me warm.
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 09, 2013, 01:58:15 PM
Today's games and game-/console maker = Le plague.
Game fun [x---------------------------l--------------------------] Technical Crap
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Post by: Punch on June 09, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
I'm more excited with the price fall on PS3 games. There are way too many great games that I didn't play yet. And I'm not going to be a guinea pig (or early adopter as they say) for the faulty hardware that they'll churn out on launch.
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Post by: FiftyQuid on June 09, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
I'm looking forward to the PS4 reveal and to hear more details about it. I'm a big PS3 fanboy so PS4 has me hyped. However, if Sony pulls the same bullshit MS just did I won't be a next gen purchaser. I'm interested to see if remote play will finally work the way it's supposed to as well.
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Post by: wavering on June 09, 2013, 03:46:03 PM
This is the best opportunity Sony has had in years to get back market share on Xbox if they don't screw it up.
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Post by: TR0N on June 09, 2013, 05:29:31 PM
Sony can take the lead from ms if they play there cards right.
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Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 09, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
This is the best opportunity Sony has had in years to get back market share on Xbox if they don't screw it up.
Exactly! I think Sony could really bring people in, if they become the anti-M$! Basically though, I just hope the PS4 doesn't suck. I have zero interest in EVER getting a XboxOne. Just the whole "gotta use the Kinect" thing makes me want to stay away. I have a 360, but I got it for free, & haven't used it in years. If I got an XboxOne for free....I'd probably never set it up. There's a rumor that Fallout 4 will be exclusive to XboxOne. If so, oh well, I'll live without it.
I already know there's atleast one game that interests me on PS4, & that's the new inFamous game. I loved the first 2. Plus, Falcom is signed up for PS4 development.....that right there hits me like a ton of bricks(in a good way). I still love Falcoms games, so any chance of US releases gets me giddy! :D As it is, I'll be picking up a Vita solely for Ys: Memories of Celceta in September. Hopefully Sony will announce a price drop AND a new model of Vita, that's what I'm really waiting for. With it being required by dev's to include Vita support for PS4, I think Sony should be dropping the price on it atleast.
If Sony has any kind of online check system, I don't know how I'll feel about that. Also, I don't want any camera's staring at me constantly. I don't have one on my PC, nor do I want one on my console. I don't think the Move is required for the PS4, so that's good. When it comes to used games, the more I think about it, the more I realize I don't buy too many used games anymore. I just wait for brand new games to drop severely in price($20 & under) unless it's a game I absolutely want to play upon release.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: SMF on June 09, 2013, 06:29:02 PM
I've given up on this great next gen gaming systems. Both Sony and MS are in such a rush to take the lead that they both forgot about what sells the system gamers want and that's GAMES. I was and always will be a Turbo/Nintendo fanboy as those are the 2 companys I grew up with. I do own a PS3 and 360 so forgive me if I sound lime a duh here but if these supposedly next gen systems are so great and powerful then why are all the new games coming out also coming out on last gen systems? Why are PS4 and X1 games being released on PS3 and 360 even the WiiU. Makes me wonder is all. I will stick with Nintendo as they are the only true video game manufacturer still operating today.
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Post by: SuperDeadite on June 09, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
PS4? What kind of dumb name is this. We had Playstation -> Playstation 2 -> Playstation Portable -> PSX -> Vita, and now it's PS4? Why'd they skip 3? Can't count?
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: Tatsujin on June 09, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
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Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: Tatsujin on June 09, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
PS4? What kind of dumb name is this. We had Playstation -> Playstation 2 -> Playstation Portable -> PSX -> Vita, and now it's PS4? Why'd they skip 3? Can't count?
I heard there once was a secret test release of a so called Playstation 3 but which did't attract wide interest, so they decided to move straight on to Playstation 4.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: TR0N on June 09, 2013, 07:11:31 PM
I've given up on this great next gen gaming systems. Both Sony and MS are in such a rush to take the lead that they both forgot about what sells the system gamers want and that's GAMES. I was and always will be a Turbo/Nintendo fanboy as those are the 2 companys I grew up with. I do own a PS3 and 360 so forgive me if I sound lime a duh here but if these supposedly next gen systems are so great and powerful then why are all the new games coming out also coming out on last gen systems? Why are PS4 and X1 games being released on PS3 and 360 even the WiiU. Makes me wonder is all. I will stick with Nintendo as they are the only true video game manufacturer still operating today.
The last major release was (the last of us) for the PS3.As for the reason why third party are releasing games for it still is because the PS3&360 still have a user base to sell to.Sure the PS4 and Xboxone are due this fall,but third parties don't expect there will be lot's of early adopters for when they launch.Nintendo being the true manufacture !? Now what is that suppose to mean the big'n has been slow to support the (wii u) while there putting more into the 3DS.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: SMF on June 10, 2013, 12:37:22 AM
I've given up on this great next gen gaming systems. Both Sony and MS are in such a rush to take the lead that they both forgot about what sells the system gamers want and that's GAMES. I was and always will be a Turbo/Nintendo fanboy as those are the 2 companys I grew up with. I do own a PS3 and 360 so forgive me if I sound lime a duh here but if these supposedly next gen systems are so great and powerful then why are all the new games coming out also coming out on last gen systems? Why are PS4 and X1 games being released on PS3 and 360 even the WiiU. Makes me wonder is all. I will stick with Nintendo as they are the only true video game manufacturer still operating today.
The last major release was (the last of us) for the PS3.As for the reason why third party are releasing games for it still is because the PS3&360 still have a user base to sell to.Sure the PS4 and Xboxone are due this fall,but third parties don't expect there will be lot's of early adopters for when they launch.Nintendo being the true manufacture !? Now what is that suppose to mean the big'n has been slow to support the (wii u) while there putting more into the 3DS.
Lol yea I know a lot of people won't be early adopters and developers need to release on everything to try to make a profit. Yes Nintendo is the last video game company that's only making video games. E3 week is gonna be huge for them.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: esadajr on June 10, 2013, 07:55:48 AM
It is the predecessor to the x68000... but to me it looks a lot more like some of the MSX machines (which would be the same time period)
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Post by: wavering on June 10, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
The Squeenix fanboy in me just creamed.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: tpivette on June 10, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Yeah really. KH3... its about f*cking time!
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: wavering on June 10, 2013, 03:43:39 PM
Standing ovation for used games and offline play (http://i.imgur.com/bzbCuYU.png)
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: BlueBMW on June 10, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
I'm torn on the whole used game thing... The gamer in me wants used games to be possible on everything without cost etc etc, but then the evil part of me wants the whole XboxOne DRM etc etc thing to pass on everything BECAUSE it would mean the death of Gamestop. Wouldn't that be worth it?
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: wavering on June 10, 2013, 03:58:19 PM
I'm never a fan of not owning what you bought. I do get on the gamestop hate wagon all the time, but mostly because of the pre-order spiel and opening sealed games and then selling them as new.
Part of me longs for the day of Funcoland...If only I'd had the disposable income then I could have walked away with so much and a 10% employee discount.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: wavering on June 10, 2013, 04:02:54 PM
That $399 price tag just made someone in MS crap the bed.
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Post by: nectarsis on June 10, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
$100 less, no DRM, no 100% on internet MS better change their game plan a LOT
As long as no dark secrets are revealed during the Q&A sessions that will follow the press conference, I'm sold.
It truly is Xbox Done
Yup I am gonna stick with current gen for a few more years before I buy the next ones. Sony are taking the Microsoft approach to online gaming tho.. You need psn+ for the multiplayer
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Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 10, 2013, 04:28:59 PM
Well, it looks like I'll be eventually picking up a PS4, given that good games are released. Infamous 3 is one, as long as it doesn't suck. And I'll get the new MGS's, though, for MGS 5, I think I'll wait for a bundle. The PS4 itself, it'll probably be another year or 2 or 3 before I get one....unless something crazy like a new Ys or Suikoden hits it.....then I may have a problem! I do wish there was a price drop for Vita announced, but maybe there's still time for that?
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: KingDrool on June 10, 2013, 04:30:47 PM
I didn't see a price drop for Vita. They spent all of five minutes talking about it.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: tpivette on June 10, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
I just preordered it. If they piss me off between now and release, I can always cancel. ;)
Where can you preorder it already? I see it at Gamestop for preorder, but you have to bundle it with some sports games and its either $460 or $580. I just want the basic console for $400...
EDIT: nevermind. Found it at Best Buy
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 10, 2013, 04:38:36 PM
I just preordered it. If they piss me off between now and release, I can always cancel. ;)
Where can you preorder it already? I see it at Gamestop for preorder, but you have to bundle it with some sports games and its either $460 or $580. I just want the basic console for $400...
They have it on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1370921894&sr=1-1&keywords=playstation+4
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: FiftyQuid on June 10, 2013, 04:53:22 PM
I just preordered it. If they piss me off between now and release, I can always cancel. ;)
Where can you preorder it already? I see it at Gamestop for preorder, but you have to bundle it with some sports games and its either $460 or $580. I just want the basic console for $400...
EDIT: nevermind. Found it at Best Buy
I got it at Amazon. Where do you see it at Best Buy? I can't find a preorder link there anywhere.
EDIT: Nevermind. It must've just gone up.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: SMF on June 10, 2013, 05:18:55 PM
Sony killed it lol. But I was gonna wait until a year or 2 passes before I possibly get a PS4 or Xbox one. Nintendo is gonna end the morning in the lead and watching Sony and MS bicker lol.
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Post by: FiftyQuid on June 10, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lPTwl0B.gif)
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Post by: TheClash603 on June 10, 2013, 06:13:55 PM
Best Buy is the way to go, cause you can pre-order ship to store and just get it there the day it comes out.
I am pretty happy with everything they showed, except that I now must become a PS+ member to play online. Ohh well, I can live with that. They do give a ton of free games, etc.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: TR0N on June 10, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
I've given up on this great next gen gaming systems. Both Sony and MS are in such a rush to take the lead that they both forgot about what sells the system gamers want and that's GAMES. I was and always will be a Turbo/Nintendo fanboy as those are the 2 companys I grew up with. I do own a PS3 and 360 so forgive me if I sound lime a duh here but if these supposedly next gen systems are so great and powerful then why are all the new games coming out also coming out on last gen systems? Why are PS4 and X1 games being released on PS3 and 360 even the WiiU. Makes me wonder is all. I will stick with Nintendo as they are the only true video game manufacturer still operating today.
The last major release was (the last of us) for the PS3.As for the reason why third party are releasing games for it still is because the PS3&360 still have a user base to sell to.Sure the PS4 and Xboxone are due this fall,but third parties don't expect there will be lot's of early adopters for when they launch.Nintendo being the true manufacture !? Now what is that suppose to mean the big'n has been slow to support the (wii u) while there putting more into the 3DS.
Lol yea I know a lot of people won't be early adopters and developers need to release on everything to try to make a profit. Yes Nintendo is the last video game company that's only making video games. E3 week is gonna be huge for them.
That's why i think these third parties are double dipping on these late release.Sure the economy is recovering but at a slow rate currently,also not every body will have the $ to buy a Xboxone&PS4 at the launch.Still after i heard the PS4 will have no DRM and no 24 hour connect bs.That makes it a easy choice for me the PS4 it is but not at the launch.Maybe next year or so for me but i'll see at this point.As for nintendo id assume 'there will be showing mostly first party titles and not much for the thirds.
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Post by: TR0N on June 10, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
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Post by: Punch on June 11, 2013, 12:36:32 AM
hahaha there is no way Sony can lose to Microsoft with that mockery, at least not at the beggining.
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Post by: Mishran on June 11, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3. You guys enjoy your shiny new systems that'll likely break after a year or so. I'll stick to gaming on old reliable and friends. PCE, Neo Geo, Genesis, and NES. Goodnight y'all!
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Post by: Nando on June 11, 2013, 01:31:36 AM
Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.
Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!
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Post by: lukester on June 11, 2013, 01:42:18 AM
Sony killed it lol. But I was gonna wait until a year or 2 passes before I possibly get a PS4 or Xbox one. Nintendo is gonna end the morning in the lead and watching Sony and MS bicker lol.
Nintendo isn't even going to E3...
http://e3.nintendo.com/
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Post by: SMF on June 11, 2013, 02:01:00 AM
Sony killed it lol. But I was gonna wait until a year or 2 passes before I possibly get a PS4 or Xbox one. Nintendo is gonna end the morning in the lead and watching Sony and MS bicker lol.
Nintendo isn't even going to E3...
http://e3.nintendo.com/
Yes I know Nintendo is doing a Nintendo Direct but to say they won't be at E3 is a lie. Everyone is awaiting Nintendos Direct this morning. It will be a huge event during E3 week.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: TheClash603 on June 11, 2013, 02:17:20 AM
Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.
Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!
Compare Perfect Dark Zero, a launch game of the current gen, to Halo 4. Graphics of launch games never improve as much over the previous system, but they definitely figure out the new systems as time passes.
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Post by: Ji-L87 on June 11, 2013, 02:47:32 AM
Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.
Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!
Compare Perfect Dark Zero, a launch game of the current gen, to Halo 4. Graphics of launch games never improve as much over the previous system, but they definitely figure out the new systems as time passes.
Pretty much this. I remember trying that Perfect Dark game some year back at a friends house after pestering him about it...and I remember it looked decidedly "meh". Not bad, just...not so hot.
Now, Halo 4 on the other hand, I find can be downright gorgeous at times. Oh, and blue skies in games and all that :mrgreen: So, more interested in what the future will bring than what's on the table now.
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Post by: esadajr on June 11, 2013, 03:29:46 AM
Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.
Exactly my point, where is the innovation? In every past generation you had something to differentiate from the previous one (16bit graphics, 3D graphics, better 3D graphics, HD and motion controllers).
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Post by: jeffhlewis on June 11, 2013, 03:43:47 AM
We're reaching a point with graphics - what else can you do? more bloom? The shit already looks practically real on the current gen. Not like 4K TV's are going to be widespread very soon either.
I think that $100 price difference is the real killer here - nothing I've seen on XBone is remotely worth $100 extra bucks, and paying for XBox Live Gold is horseshit. MS is going to have to cut their price early in the game to compete.
I really don't think the DRM/always-online crap is going to matter as much to the general COD-and-Madden buying public. Plus if it's a software/firmware related issue it's probably easy enough for MS to issue and update and sweep it under the rug.
Should be an interesting console war.
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Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on June 11, 2013, 05:04:44 AM
I really don't think the DRM/always-online crap is going to matter as much to the general COD-and-Madden buying public.
You would be surprised. The fanbase for COD on PC is basically on par with the console fanbase and people were pretty pissed when they swapped over to Steam and more anal DRM after World at War. It pretty much killed use game sales for the PC versions of Black Ops and Modern Warfare. I am sure it will have a impact on the console side as well. Plus, people don't like having to jump through hoops to sell their used games. People like being able to sell them on ebay or Craigslist or to friends. Xbox One is not going to be friendly towards that. All the negatives will add up.
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Post by: Nando on June 11, 2013, 05:21:12 AM
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Post by: Arkhan on June 11, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
I preordered the PS4 as soon as amazon let me.
It's going to kick all kinds of ass. That Destiny game is like, Rifts on drugs.
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Post by: SMF on June 11, 2013, 07:25:17 AM
I'm interested but I can wait for a killer bundle to be offered before I buy one.
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Post by: bartre on June 11, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
yeah, i'm gonna wait a bit, as i always do, but it's definitely ps4 for this guy. i am sad that the panzer dragoon "sequel" and KI3 are exclusive, but hey, they can always try the bioshock route and come out later on ps4. and KH3 - (http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/delgadillo92/i_came.jpg)
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Post by: TheClash603 on June 12, 2013, 12:37:51 AM
After preordering a PS4 and thinking about things, I am on the cusp of cancelling the Xbox One preorder I made.
I was kinda excited that there is a special Xobx One Day One Edition and I was bu,,ed PS4 didn't do something similar. The I thought about it a little more, and the collectible aspect of the Xbox One special edition is really questionable. In 15 years who is going to care about a special controller, when it is useless because all the games are shut off? Essentially, there is no real value to the system, as it will eventually just be a useless hunk of plastic.
I guess MS has a few months to persuade me to keep my order in.
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Post by: SMF on June 12, 2013, 01:09:34 AM
Or it might make unopen Xbox one games ultra rare and highly collectible and the need to store them in ultra rarez plastic cases and put them on ebay for $500, 000 a game as such is in itself worth the buying of such console lol.
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Post by: BlueBMW on June 12, 2013, 04:27:14 AM
Or it could end up like HDDVD
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Post by: fraggore on June 12, 2013, 05:07:20 AM
I am not getting xbox one Microsoft and there new policy's can kiss my sweaty arse.
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Post by: Black Tiger on June 12, 2013, 05:14:29 AM
Apparently the PS4 is setup to lock out used games the same as the Xbox One. Sony is only saying that for now, they are opting not to lock out their own first party games. If a third party chooses, they might lock out used games but not sell/transfer user licenses, which would make it even worse than Xbox One for used gsmes.
Sony just seems to be letting Microsoft announce plans first, then choose to just not be as bad for various aspects. But the PS3/360 generation was already bad enough with games shipping unfinished and just patched up down the road (requiring an internet connection and often mandatory harddrive installs). These aren't really consoles anymore, just media boxes.
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Post by: EvilEvoIX on June 12, 2013, 05:21:01 AM
It's sad to see Microsoft go this route, effectively shutting down a huge avenue of gaming for a lot of us. This launch is akin to the Saturn Launch, more money, arrogance, just going to ruin it's name in gaming. Sony doesn't need to sell once piece of hardware to make a profit, and I mean not one tv, stereo, anything. They make the bulk of their income from Life Insurance in Japan.
I fear Sony might take Liberties with their content now since Microsoft has gone so far right with their policy's giving Sony a wide berth to move. The only choice left now is SONY and Nintendo, and you are either a Nintendo Fan Boy or your not.
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Post by: td741 on June 12, 2013, 05:26:41 AM
Apparently the PS4 is setup to lock out used games the same as the Xbox One. Sony is only saying that for now, they are opting not to lock out their own first party games. If a third party chooses, they might lock out used games but not sell/transfer user licenses, which would make it even worse than Xbox One for used gsmes.
I guess we'll see... http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/playstation-4-drm-policies-third-party/ ithe update portion says: "Update: Sony itself has responded with the following: "Similar to PS3, we will not dictate the online used game strategy (the ability to play used games online) of its publishing partners. As announced last night, PS4 will not have any gating restrictions for used disc-based games. When a gamer buys a PS4 disc they have right to use that copy of the game, so they can trade-in the game at retail, sell it to another person, lend it to a friend, or keep it forever.""
He seems categorically saying that the offline play on *DISC*-based games won't have restrictions. Developers can have an online-pass system for PS4 like they had for some PS3/360 games or adopt another system.
I guess we'll see.
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Post by: fraggore on June 12, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Online passes have gone but I did here talk that 3rd party developers could block online play and charge you no idea how that will work tho.
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Post by: fraggore on June 12, 2013, 09:46:41 AM
Game spot are asking developers if they don't mind second hand games, and all of them are saying they think its fine to trade games, but they seem to get a bit sketchy when it comes to online play.
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Post by: jeffhlewis on June 12, 2013, 02:01:32 PM
The only choice left now is SONY and Nintendo, and you are either a Nintendo Fan Boy or your not.
Or you're like me and you really just don't give a flying shit about anything released after the year 2000
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Post by: bartre on June 13, 2013, 02:52:41 PM
that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then. let's see: Phantasy Star Online Onimusha Sonic Adventure 2 Devil May Cry SSX Tricky Golden Sun DOA 3 Halo SSBM Final Fantasy X
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Post by: Punch on June 13, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
Also Metal Gear... METAL GEAR!
Also, the official MSX2 ports translated into english of Metal Gear 1 and 2: Solid Snake on MGS3. So awesome!
that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then. let's see: Phantasy Star Online Onimusha Sonic Adventure 2 Devil May Cry SSX Tricky Golden Sun DOA 3 Halo SSBM Final Fantasy X
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Post by: vestcoat on June 13, 2013, 03:55:57 PM
This all sounds like a bunch of crap. Console launches used to be about games and specs, now gamers wet themselves over which company announces the least consumer f*ckery. Have fun with your $400 guys.
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Post by: roflmao on June 13, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
This all sounds like a bunch of crap. Console launches used to be about games and specs, now gamers wet themselves over which company announces the least consumer f*ckery. Have fun with your $400 guys.
Pretty much this. I haven't gotten around to picking up a PS3 or a Wii yet (don't know that I ever will), and these new consoles aren't doing anything for me. There isn't a single compelling reason to pick either one of them up.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: Tatsujin on June 13, 2013, 06:01:00 PM
that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then. let's see: Phantasy Star Online Onimusha Sonic Adventure 2 Devil May Cry SSX Tricky Golden Sun DOA 3 Halo SSBM Final Fantasy X
I'm obviously only being half serious here; there's tons of good stuff released every year.
BUT - I see videos of stuff like MGS5 and FFXV and just say "wow that looks cool. I'll never have 70 hours to play through it though."
I primarily use my PS3 as a media center anyways, so what Microsoft is doing with XBone actually appeals to me.
Still taking a wait and see approach to the next gen - my PS3 backlog of games is about 20 deep.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: lukester on June 14, 2013, 05:49:49 AM
I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it. :)
Also, I need to explore more Wii/Gamecube games on my old Wii. I've never played a Metal Gear game, so I bought Twin Snakes. Hopefully I can also try out Resident Evil 4 eventually. :)
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: jeffhlewis on June 14, 2013, 07:54:59 AM
I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it. :)
Also, I need to explore more Wii/Gamecube games on my old Wii. I've never played a Metal Gear game, so I bought Twin Snakes. Hopefully I can also try out Resident Evil 4 eventually. :)
MGS1 is a g'damn masterpiece. It's one of those games that I had no qualms about playing through 3, 4, 5 times to completion. Can't speak for Twin Snakes but the original game on PS1 can be had for a song on eBay (maybe $15 or so).
Same with RE4 - must own! But get the GC version, not the Wii one.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: Nando on June 14, 2013, 08:25:11 AM
I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it. :)
Yup, their core franchises is where it is at for sure, and I am actually kinda excited about Bayonetta. Also after seeing some E3 stuff, the vita is starting to look a bit better. Not much, but better than when it launched. I hope to get a Wii U come Xmas.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: wildfruit on June 14, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
after owning at some stage or other almost every major console released in pal region (except for the amiga line which my parents couldnt afford at the time! and they are gouged on ebay now) i think ive had enough of keeping up to date xbox one and ps4 doing nothing for me dont feel excited majority of games are cross platform on ps/xbox anyway
nintendo vs sega, those were the days and if you wanted to be refined games for dos/win 95 :-k
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: BlueBMW on June 15, 2013, 02:53:49 AM
and if you wanted to be refined games for dos/win 95 :-k
This was where it was at... :D
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: lukester on June 15, 2013, 08:29:42 AM
I just went to the Nintendo E3 at Best Buy. Only an hour wait. Mario 3D World is a great 4 player game, but you can only try one level and one game. I also got to pick a flimsy foam Luigi hat as my prize. :)
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: TheClash603 on June 15, 2013, 09:56:24 AM
I just went to the Nintendo E3 at Best Buy. Only an hour wait. Mario 3D World is a great 4 player game, but you can only try one level and one game. I also got to pick a flimsy foam Luigi hat as my prize. :)
I went today too. After 30 minutes I was able to watch the demos of all 4 games (DK, Mario 3D, Mario Kart, and Wind Waker) and I was sold. Mario Land 3D is the best 3DS game hands down, cant wait to play more of the same.
I didn't get to play anything, because we signed up and the line wouldve been at least 90 minutes, though probably closer to 2 hours. The thing was poorly planned, with 1 demo station and playtimes of 10-12 minutes per game. The group playing Mario 3D finished their level and they said "you want to play another?" Doesnt make sense with a huge line...
However, I got 2 free Luigi 30th anniversary coins which are awesome, some Mario Kart flags, Luigi hats, and some Wii U booklets for free. There was also free coffee from the Kurig on display. Overall, can't complain too much... hope this happens again next year with maybe 2 to 4 displays at least.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: munchiaz on June 18, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
I missed out on going to the best buy Wii u E3 thing. i had to practice KOF 13 that day for EVo coming up. I pre ordered a ps4, but i am not excited for it or the xbone. I pre order the ps4 just incase i change my mind. But i am happy with the Wii U and this holiday season will have some good games to get for sure.
Title: Re: PS4 revealed tomorrow...
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 18, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
"Amazon.com has recently conducted a user poll to ask customers which console they are more interested in between Xbox One and PS4. The result shows 38984 votes for PS4 and 2162 for Xbox One, a 94.7% in favor of PS4. The vote has ended early (original end date was Jun 20), given the clear lopsided results."
If these number are fairly accurate, M$ is going to be kicking themselves, & firing people during this next generation!