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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #150 on: December 30, 2012, 03:33:32 PM »
This guy goes on a diatribe about how games aren't complete without the box but he doesn't mention or show that he has the clear plastic tray that held the hucard...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370725717674
Yeah, but he's been "collecting for 26 years and I know what I am doing".  :^o

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #151 on: December 30, 2012, 03:44:23 PM »
Thought I'd screw with him for a bit:


Dear pacfamily,

As pointed out when this auction of yours was posted about on PCEFX.com, this game is not complete in its box. You are missing the original plastic tray that held the game. Until you offer it with the tray, it will not be complete.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

I presume you respond with even greater zeal to those who sell as complete without boxes? I received no email when I sold a game without a sleeve.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

The point being, you're going on about how it is complete in your auction details, and its not. Get your crap straight.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

f*ck off.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

26 years of collecting, and you have no idea what complete means lol.

- professorprofessorson

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #152 on: December 30, 2012, 05:23:17 PM »
Thought I'd screw with him for a bit:


Dear pacfamily,

As pointed out when this auction of yours was posted about on PCEFX.com, this game is not complete in its box. You are missing the original plastic tray that held the game. Until you offer it with the tray, it will not be complete.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

I presume you respond with even greater zeal to those who sell as complete without boxes? I received no email when I sold a game without a sleeve.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

The point being, you're going on about how it is complete in your auction details, and its not. Get your crap straight.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

f*ck off.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

26 years of collecting, and you have no idea what complete means lol.

- professorprofessorson

Oh man that exchange is funny! lol

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #153 on: December 31, 2012, 02:52:41 AM »
Thought I'd screw with him for a bit:


Dear pacfamily,

As pointed out when this auction of yours was posted about on PCEFX.com, this game is not complete in its box. You are missing the original plastic tray that held the game. Until you offer it with the tray, it will not be complete.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

I presume you respond with even greater zeal to those who sell as complete without boxes? I received no email when I sold a game without a sleeve.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

The point being, you're going on about how it is complete in your auction details, and its not. Get your crap straight.

- professorprofessorson



Dear professorprofessorson,

f*ck off.

- pacfamily



Dear pacfamily,

26 years of collecting, and you have no idea what complete means lol.

- professorprofessorson

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #154 on: December 31, 2012, 03:01:08 AM »
Heh, well, his Splatterhouse shirt is still available at least lol.

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #155 on: December 31, 2012, 03:25:33 AM »
Brag about getting away with selling incomplete 'complete' items and tell a prospective buyer to f*ck off?  What a charmer.
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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2012, 03:25:43 AM »
I just sent "PACFAMILY" a question about a CIB NES game he has listed.  I already got a response and I replied again.
I will post the conversation in a bit...

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2012, 03:26:00 AM »
I have 2 modern Splatterhouse promotional T-shirts when I worked at Blockbuster for free.  I asked my manger if I could have one and she said yes.  Few weeks later she said I could have the other one since it was taking up room and they weren't going to use it.

That old school one looks sweet I must admit but $80 starting bid?  No thanks.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 03:28:55 AM by MrFlutterPie »

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« Reply #158 on: January 01, 2013, 01:15:18 AM »
So here is my conversation so far with PACFAMILY.  I reached out to him about a boxed "complete" NES game.  Now mind you, I understand that some people don't care about the inserts to consider a game complete, but I needed some leg to stand on in order to contact him...

Dear pacfamily,

Hi, I see your description states "Complete", however, I don't see the inserts (poster, ads, etc.) in the picture. I assume they are there if this is truly complete. Lots of sellers state an item is complete when it isn't. I understand, it happens a lot when people that don't truly collect video games think these things are complete.
thanks

- dealisdead


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Dear dealisdead,

I've spoken with many leading collectors in the world over the years, and know personally owners of some of the biggest online and offline retro gaming stores in America.
It is widely accepted, if not universally accepted, that an NES game as I've presented it in this auction is "complete."
You are entitled to your is dissenting opinion, but it is ONLY your opinion, and I don't appreciate your cocksure attitude that your opinion is fact. Or your implication that I don't truly collect video games and so don't know what I am doing. No matter who you are, chances are that I have more experience in my pinky than you have in your totality.
Do your complete games include shrink wrap ? No? Then by your logic they are not complete.
I don't understand the purpose of your email; please vent your frustrations with collecting standards elsewhere. You're from Rhode Island? Most people from that fine state are more reasonable.

- pacfamily


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Um...ok.  I was just asking about the additional items that would consider it complete.  Why are you so defensive? 
No need to "puff your chest" about talking to leading collectors the world over and having more experience in your pinky, blah blah. 
There are thousands of sellers on ebay with misrepresenting information about what's in their auctions.  How often do people use the term "RARE" or "Museum Quality" in the titles?  If you are so entrenched in the scene, I'm sure you have come across this as well and roll your eyes.
I have nothing to vent about collecting standards at all, so I'm not quite sure what you meant by that. 

To answer your question about shrink wrap, no, it doesn't qualify as "complete", I would consider that "sealed". 
And as for your final comment, no, people in RI are certainly not "more reasonable" than me.  This state is a dump with a bunch of lazy unemployed crack heads.


-dealisdead


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I only called out "museum quality" because that is what he had in the title of the splatterhouse shirt.
Awaiting response...
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 01:18:24 AM by galam »

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #159 on: January 01, 2013, 02:22:27 AM »
Ha yeah the guy is highly defensive. Leads me to believe he must get a lot of messages from people questioning him about this stuff and ragging on him for false advertisement.

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« Reply #160 on: January 01, 2013, 03:10:40 AM »
Ha yeah the guy is highly defensive. Leads me to believe he must get a lot of messages from people questioning him about this stuff and ragging on him for false advertisement.

Which a more reasonable person might take as a hint to smarten the f*ck up... 

Funny what $$$ will do to reason...

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #161 on: January 01, 2013, 06:25:11 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Grafx-Super-System-Card-3-0-US-Version-/130825428803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e75cd9f43

look what mom packed for lunch...  she must be hittin' the sauce again lol :shock:


You know, I was hesitant to post about this guy, but I guess I will do so. Awhile back I listed a auction for Sini for a copy of Dragon Slayer and Dungeon Master. I attached a low start bid and low bin because these were not mint copies, and the manual was missing to Dragon Slayer. Soon after the listing started I received a message from the guy:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

hello. would you sell the back of the case for dragon slayer by itself. i am missing the back only on my copy. let me know what we could work out if anything. thanks.

- mrniceguy1408


I replied back with the following:

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

No sorry, cant. These are being sold for a friend to help assist in getting music equipment replaced. His home was hit during the Sandy storm in NY and he and his band lost all their music gear, etc, so I am doing a few auctions to try to get him as much money as I can to help him out. That is why I listed these and also Steam Hearts so cheap on the starting bids, to drive up interest in them and get him some money fast.

- professorprofessorson


He contacted back again stating the following:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

well this way would benefit him more. i would pay $16 for the case back. ive been selling turbo stuff for years. and a lot of it. when people buy turbo cd games its all or nothing. somebody would want the disc more than a disc and case cause its more likely somebody lost their disc only than still have their manual but lost the case and disc. most common would be the lost manual like you have.

- mrniceguy1408


I then politely declined his offer again, even though he was being annoying and persistant:

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Sorry, at this time this would not benefit him more, as I already have 4 watchers on this auction. Thanks for your interest though.

- professorprofessorson


Next thing I know he uses BIN, so I contact him with the following message, then after a short time I purchase shipping:

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Will ship these out monday with tracking and insurance. Thanks for the purchase and happy holidays. :)

- professorprofessorson


After shipping has been paid for and tracking info relayed to him through ebay, I receive the following message:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

if i bin the steam hearts would you go free shipping on it since im getting a package shipped from you already?

- mrniceguy1408


I politely replied back with the following:
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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Sorry, wish I could, but shipping has already been paid for on the other two games. Paid for shipping on them late last night. Did ebay not give you the tracking/shipping info on them yet? If not, the tracking number for USPS First Class Mail is 9416 5096 9993 9398 7123 86. When at all possible I do combine shipping, but if someone doesn't notify me of intent to purchase or bid on other items when they purchase one already I usually just go ahead and get the shipping paid for and ready to be picked up by USPS.

- professorprofessorson


He replied back with :

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Dear professorprofessorson,

ok. thats fine.

- mrniceguy1408




So anyway, fast forward to today , I log in to do my every two week shipping cost review for items sold and I see my DSR stats lowered, and while the guy did leave a positive FB, he made some inaccurate statement concerning the auction and shipping cost:

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FB received: Good description. Should have specified water damage. Shipping cost a bit high.


I'm going to state for the record, the auction details listed everything wrong with the items, including what was missing, and what had damage and there was detailed pics, and the over all auction condition listing was "GOOD", which is a notch above "acceptable". The water damage he is referring to was listed in detail. I listed in the auction details I refund shipping/handling cost for anything not used. He was charged $6.65 for S&H and refunded $1.56 towards that since what he paid was $4.67 in actual cost, plus the 50 cents or so to pay my daughter to pack it/bubble wrap the games well, which I might add she did a pretty nice job on, as it was nice and thick, taped up extremely well, and well protected (I pay her to do the smaller pack jobs so she can get experience and earn a little money).  I listed the case insert on Dragon Slayer had moderate damage, and on its pic I specifically listed it had moisture damage to make sure this was crystal clear:



I contacted him after issuing the S&H refund with the following messages (I had to split it up a tad due to length):

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

You know, I was fairly hesitant to allow you to purchase the game after realizing you are a reseller. However, I went ahead and did so on good faith instead of blocking your account after nagging me about buying the case insert by itself. So we are clear on this, the details listed moderate wear, and the pic of the game showing the insert specifically had posted on it that it had moisture damage (the detail was added in on the pic when it was hosted on my photobucket account. This was put on the pic to make sure the buyer knew exactly what they were buying, so had you reviewed the auction in full including pics so you could see the condition of the items you would have spotted this. As for shipping and handling cost,$4.67 was paid to cover the cost of shipping, and the remainder went to the person who packed the item to cover handling and packing materials.Every two weeks I review final cost and issue refunds to buyers for funds not used. (continued next message....)

- professorprofessorson


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Dear mrniceguy1408,

(continued from last message)Upon receiving said items you did not contact me with any of your complaints concerning condition or shipping cost prior to leaving feedback. While I appreciate receiving a positive, the actual details contained in it are inaccurate, as is lowering my DSR, and to be quite honest, it felt more or less like a spiteful act, simply because I would not sell you the case insert separately, which was politely explained to you that I could not do so, as the item was being sold for a 3rd party, and also that ebay does not allow sellers or buyers to contact each other in regards to making purchases outside of ebay, which I could have reported you for, but did not do so. I am attaching pics of the shipping receipt, and also of the auction detail that you clearly missed before using BIN. Please feel free to review them at your leisure.

- professorprofessorson


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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Pics attached.

- professorprofessorson


(I attached two pics to the message for him to view, one showing the auction detail showing it listing moisture damage, and another that was a copy of the ship receipt)

He replied back with the following:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

i did not see anything about moisture damage in any photo in the description even going back and double checking.
i only resell extra stuff i get from lots. i try not to resell at all.
i did not ask you to sell me anything on the side. i simply asked if you would separate it. report me if you'd like. I've been a bad boy.
i gave you good stars on shipping time and lower stars on description, shipping cost and communication. description and communication go hand in hand in my book. i ship alot and know about what that cost you. you could have thrown in steam hearts and still payed less than your shipping cost with a free flat rate box and some garbage stuffed in for protection.
i did not hold it against you for not separating. if i did you would have received a negative or neutral score. i'm not like that though. the shipping cost thing was irritating to me though.
sorry. i take full responsibility for my faults.

please block and report me.

do not respond.

this is annoying.

- mrniceguy1408


So I replied back again stating the following:

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

You may have viewed the auction then before photobucket applied the changes to the pic for general viewing. People who don't clear their web browsers cache sometimes have this happen I guess and retain what they originally viewed, and the pic gets stuck on them until they clear their cache. It however shows up correct for me when I viewed the auction, and did before you used BIN, so I am not sure what to tell you there. I double check the auctions twice for typos once theey are listed and it appeared fine. Also, you were sent a receipt of the shipping cost, since you know a lot about shipping cost I am sure you will be able to read and review the receipt perfectly fine and see that the shipping cost was $4.67 before packing cost,etc. And as stated, I review cost every two weeks and refund buyers the difference if there is any. You did not contact me concerning any of this prior to leaving feedback. Also, shipping was paid for prior to you contacting me about Steam Hearts. You know this already. You can check the date on the shipping receipt if you like. Steam Hearts would have increased the weight past what was already paid for, so no, I could not have thrown in Steam Hearts, and besides, the feedback should only be applied to the current purchase, not to some hypothetical one you decided not to make. I guess that was another mark against me ehh, not paying double shipping so you could get free shipping cost on Steam Hearts? In the end, as stated, for someone who says communication goes hand in hand, you evidently have issues with it in general when you don't get your way.

- professorprofessorson


His final message back in response to this was:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

cry me a river.

note is not on the photo on my page.

i don't complain before leaving feedback anymore because.... why cry about it. nothing ever gets done anyway. i am picky but reasonable.

shut the fu** up. you got a positive. you deserved the stars you got for the purchase i made. even the good stars. btw recycled bubble mailers are free and green. thanks for saving the planet.

as for the purchase i didnt make. flat rate! $5.××! had nothing to do with your shipping rating on my purchase.

Happy Hanukkah! Or Christmas if you celebrate. good start to a new year.

do not reply or i will report you for bugging me.

- mrniceguy1408


Replied back:
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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Reasonable people make contact PRIOR to leaving feedback if they have any complaints. Thats common sense. Anyway, since it was posted prior on PCEFX about your Super System Card auction, I decided to post on this experience I have had with you as a buyer so people can have a more complete picture of who you are as a reseller.

http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13195.msg276370#msg276370



- professorprofessorson


And again:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

hahhahahahahaahahaha! i do not give a sh**. i do no go on pcefx. real "reasonable" adults take responsibility for their actions. i am sick of sellers not being specific enough with their products. the shipping thing wasn't huge but a good seller would be more "reasonable". what would you have done for me if i complained? all you would have said "well i posted it on photobucket". "as is no returns" remember. you dont sound at all like a professor. im only nice to sellers that give 100%. look i know nobody's perfect but your response to things sounds like you lived with mommy for too long. get over it dude. youll live. try harder and post ALL details before people buy your stuff. get more high ratings and in no time youll be back where you once were. i think i might jump on pcefx just to clown half ass sellers and little Bs. good luck on your pitiful journey.

- mrniceguy1408



And so on:

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Dear mrniceguy1408,

Sorry guy, but the details listed moderate wear, and the pic showing the insert for Dragon Slayer posted "moisture damage" directly on the pic. Stop feigning stupidity. You can clearly see "Dragon Slayer case insert has moisture damage" stamped directly on the 2nd pic in the auction. You were even refunded the difference on shipping. You have nothing legit to complain about. You were just upset I would not sell you the insert separately outside ebay, and that I could not bend time and space for his Highness so he could buy his wittle Steam Hearts and get free shipping. You made that clear in your bitter little rant about how when you complain to people no one listens. So sad, ammarite? I'd love for you to show up on PCEFX. We'd have a ball with you there. Resellers like you are always great for a laugh.

- professorprofessorson


blah blah:

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Dear professorprofessorson,

i laughs at fools like you all day. i will be contacting ebay to get the feedback removed. i never said yo sell it off of ebay but only asked if youd separate. and i will jump on pcefx to give my side. post full description on ebay (since thats where youre selling it) not photobucket. laugh away my friend.

- mrniceguy1408


blah blah moar:
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Dear mrniceguy1408,

People there can view it. Ebay can view your messages you sent me as far as trying to buy the insert separately. I already notified them. Please feel free to post the auction details to a auction everyone can already view. I am a well known seller and member there, good luck trying to twist the obvious in your favor. It aint gonna happen, but like I said, you will be fun for lulz.

- professorprofessorson


Original auction link to the one he purchased:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170963539860&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123



Should also note, he listed the items he purchased off me up for resale and marked up the cost on them a bit more then he paid via his BIN prices. He also removed the insert from Dragon Slayer, so it is just a bare disc, making his price mark up even worse:
25 bucks BIN
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-Slayer-The-Legend-of-Heroes-TurboGrafx-CD-1992-Disc-Only-/130828809377?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1e760134a1
30 bucks BIN
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dungeon-Master-Therons-Quest-TurboGrafx-CD-1993-/140902179827?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20ce6ca3f3

Anyway, I figured you all may want to know in case he wants to buy anything off you, or in case he is a lurker/member here.









« Last Edit: January 02, 2013, 02:28:59 AM by ProfessorProfessorson »

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #162 on: January 02, 2013, 02:48:48 AM »
Sent him a time waster message on the DS auction:

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I'm confused.  The title says "disc only", yet the item condition clearly says ".....cover art and liner notes are included for a CD.....video game instructions are included....." and a jewel case is shown in the picture.  So what is/isn't included?

Thanks.
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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #163 on: January 02, 2013, 04:26:54 AM »
It was actually I who grabbed your copy of Steam Hearts professor :wink:  I'll just ahead and leave you feedback now (without even actually having received the item yet) as your auction was clearly stated and I trust ya  :D

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Re: Just... Bad, Turbo Ebay Auctions (Not Gouging)
« Reply #164 on: January 02, 2013, 06:51:13 AM »
Professor. I left positive feedback with high stars where they belong. Your note on the photobucket pic was and still is not there on my ebay page. Next time post it on the description with the rest of your details. Im not a bad seller or buyer and from your positive feedback score it proves you are not either. Thats why I left you a positive feedback. Now my side is out you guys can have your fun.